How they compare: Dalvia (Alice 19th)

The heart is a mysterious thing. Most humans don't know his their heart is immense enough to be a whole universe. Universes that have their own denizens and internal workings. And looming in the darkest recesses of the human heart was the ancient malicious entity Dalvia, feeding off the darkest emotions of humanity. Over 10,000 years ago the great wiseman Lotsan discovered the 24 Lotus words, powerful magical words drawing on the power of the heart. Eager to spread this miraculous discovery he gave this power to his 10 disciples and sent them to spread their power across the word.

Dalvia saw his opportunity and manipulated the heart of one of the 10 disciples into betraying his master. Dalvia created the dark Maram words as corruptions of the Lotus words bestowing their power onto his disciples to serve his bidding. This began the thousands of years long battle between the Lotus Masters and the Maram Masters for the soul of humanity.

Dalvia's stats are difficult to determine as much of the magical happenings of the series take place in the heart, non-physical universes within the hearts of humanity and so do not reflect physical reality. I analogize this to the soul for verse equivalence since soul is the lowest non-physical plane classically meaning just "the non-physical part of a person". If you want to analogize Alice 19th hearts to being emotions or mind you can though it's arguably making him stronger by making it harder to resist his abilities.

Within the heart, Dalvia's power is incredibly strong. The heart naturally reflects the psyche of the person and changes it's surroundings. That said Dalvia is able to reality-warp it further such as separating sections of land in the heart to make it harder for Alice and Kyo to pursue the Maram master they were pursuing and it's suggested he would fill the entire heart in darkness as well as warp it's surroundings. It is said that the heart is a whole universe and that the inner heart (the reality within the heart) is an "alternate world" formed of the interactions between people. This would make this feat universal scale. Given this would happen in days at most this would likely be trillions of times the speed of light. This is somewhat consistent as Lotus Masters traveling to the center of the heart from unknown relative locations on several occasions (equivalent to traveling to the "center" of the universe from unknown positions) in time frames that would be hours at most, more likely minutes.

In physical reality, Dalvia is highly limited in his capacity which is in fact a plot point since his primary motivation is to physically incarnate. That said when taking control of one of the Maram masters as an avatar, he was able to conjure a city-wide storm by his sheer power and warped a large government office building into a dark castle for his followers as well as creating a shield around it so that normal humans could not enter which would likely be town level raw power and at least large building scale reality-warping. When he had partially physically incarnated his true size also dwarfed buildings including his castle. His speed would be completely unknown physically though his attack speed should be at least massively hypersonic as he could command lightning to hit targets.

If Dalvia fully incarnated physically it's likely he would have the same capacities physically as he does astrally but because he never was able too, this can be neither confirmed nor denied and remains speculation.

Dalvia has a large variety of abilities, though many of them can be grouped into rough categories. Dalvia is a natural astral plane entity, existing in the darkness of a human heart. He seems to only exists in one at a time though can freely move between them as the inner heart of a person is formed of their relationships with others meaning he can move between any two connected hearts. If he needs to interact with the physical plane he can temporarily possess any of his Maram masters to act as a physical avatar where he can somewhat use his power on the physical plane.

Dalvia is associated with his darkness which he can spread and absorb things into, particularly with the Maram word for darkness (Karu). He can also reality warp, changing the inner heart to suit his whims and when controlling an avatar warping a large government office building into being a dark castle.

Dalvia is the originator of the Maram words, dark words that induce their meaning. It should be noted that these words don't seem to directly translate to either Japanese or English and some can do what seems to be multiple things or mean multiple things likely due to an unknown esoteric equivalence.

The most common form of the Maram words towards manipulating humans turning them towards malevolence. These include Disuri (Hatred), Jata (Jealousy), Shini (Despair), Sura (Rage) and Vuina (Rejection) which can be used to instill dark emotions into humanity. He also possesses Kasha (Confess) which forces the target to reveal their secrets and Matsu (Obey) which he used when possessing a physical avatar to control the minds of a large part of a city, likely thousands of people. It is heavily implied that if he fully physically incarnated he would be able to control the minds of the whole Earth.

Most of the rest of the Maram words involve manipulating the physical word somehow. Daara (Storm) allows for the creation and control of a storm and Sura (Carnage, also rage above), caused a strange dark fire to emanate from the caster. Ramito (Spoil, Destroy) seems to cause something to break apart where it's weakest physically. Paya (Degenerate) destroys matter, for instance causing a massive hold in the land into a dark pit and Niru (Old Age, Silence) can rapidly age decades in seconds as well as suspend a bunch of glass shards from a mirror in midair. Shana (Starve, Thirst)'s effects aren't seen but likely involve starving a target. Byoma (Sickness) causes sickness and Rajika (Sleep, Death) causes the affected to rapidly become sleepy until they fall asleep where they die.

Beyond these he has Veeta (Hide) which allows him to camouflage into darkness (aiding his ability to shapeshift into a human form) as well as Manu (Barrier) the dark form of the Lotus word Riiya (Wall) which creates a magic shield which is likely the invocation Dalvia used to create a barrier around the dark castle. Finally he has Muduro (Curse) which causes people to die if a circumstance such as someone confessing their love to the cursed occurs. Dalvia has cursed those who he granted the wishes of to die for they had used his power.

Outside of this, Dalvia can physically erase beings as he did to Mayura causing them to only appear in Hearts. His darkness can consume people similarly just as it can consume an entire heart. He also has a form of astral corruption, drastically exaggerating the sins and vices of humanity to extreme (such as making a sister insecure that her younger sister was going to date her ex-boyfriend determined to kill both of them and willing to kill both their parents to accomplish this goal) and binding them to his will, which causes them to become his Maram masters. He also granted power to the Maram masters including Keina trapping the invading Lotus Masters into giant hourglasses which turned back time in their hearts forcing them to relive every trauma they had endured as well as the deceiver Lotus Master who could reflect attacks.

Dalvia compliments his versatile powerset with a powerful intellect developed over the course of more then 10,000 years. He is very good at manipulating people to turn to the darkest parts of their heart, even doing so to one of the disciples of Lotsan. He was the one who formed the malevolent Maram words. Complimenting this is one of his greatest strengths; his patience and penchant for long-turning planning. He has schemed in the darkest part of the heart for over 10,000 years knowing that as time goes on he could slightly adjust things ever more to his side. His influence is the cynicism of the modern world, where significantly more Maram masters exist then Lotus masters proportionally.

In terms of weaknesses, Dalvia's biggest weakness relates to his motivation. He desires to incarnate fully as a physical entity because so long as he remains in the human heart, he will always be a fragile invader in someone else's domain. Technically even a normal human can defeat Dalvia if they have the courage to confront the darkness in their own heart. They can expel said darkness and Dalvia with it, forcing him to some other heart. In addition the purifying Lotus words can make one more resistant to Dalvia's manipulation and other forms of purification would likely work similarly if they can excise the darkness in one's heart. Finally and this is somewhat speculative it's specifically noted Dalvia exists in human hearts and there's nothing suggesting he could enter the hearts of animals or indeed any non-human. At the very least his manipulation has focused on manipulating humans and he may struggle more to manipulate non-human entities.

Name: Dalvia, Daryuba
Origin: Alice 19th
Classification: Ancient evil, Astral entity
Powers and Abilities: Astral Existence (exists in the human heart), darkness manipulation (likely universal within the astral plane), reality-warping (likely universal in the astral plane), can move between one heart to another, can possess a person whose heart is dark, storm creation and manipulation, can incite negative emotions in others, can force people to confess, mental manipulation (at least thousands, planetary if fully incarnated), can disintegrate matter or break it where it's weakness, can induce sickness, starvation, death or sleep, age manipulation (can age an enemy rapidly), can suspect objects in air, can disappear into darkness, dark fire projection, barrier creation, curses, existence erasure (physical), corruption, attack reflection, can trap enemies in hourglasses forcing them to relive all past emotional trauma, power bestowal
Weaknesses: Can be expelled from someone's heart if they can confront the darkness in their own heart, purification, may not be able to enter the hearts of non-humans
Destructive Capacity: Likely universal (can warp a heart and consume it in darkness, a heart being a whole universe). At least large building level, possibly town level with an avatar or partially physically incarnated (was massively larger then a large building, reality warped a large building, created a barrier around a large building, created and controlled a storm across a city)
Range: Universal within a heart
Speed: MFTL+ (At least millions to billions, likely trillions of times the speed of light in the astral plane (scales to Lotus Masters who can travel to the center of the heart, a universe, quickly from a unknown distance. His darkness can encompass a universe in days at most.)) At least massively hypersonic attack speed in physical reality (can control lightning)
Durability: Unknown, potentially Universe Level (Even after Alice gained the Lost Word using the powers of light and darkness together and used it on Dalvia, he did not instantly perish)
Stamina: Likely infinite (has no physical body to tire)
Intelligence: Superhuman (tens of thousands of years of experience manipulating humanity, created the Maram words)



So how would he do in other verses?

In the DC Universe, Dalvia would roughly be a Pre-Crisis Brick Level in terms of raw power, though his speed would be relatively lackluster for that. His mind hax would be particularly dangerous however due to the relative power of the dreaming he could tap into (1,000 people can warp the entire universe) and if he is physically incarnated while he would become hypothetically weak to physical force, his mind hax would be top tier within any individual universe.

In the Pre-Crisis/Rebirth ages, Dalvia would be a tough enemy for most high tier JLA heroes and in the Post-Crisis age, Dalvia would be considered a crisis level event, and would require massive coordination from many heroes to defeat. This effect is compounded if he acted slowly and patiently to manipulate events to his side though this would be more risky then normal given the far vaster amount of supernatural detection to notice him, the amount of purification and non-humans that are running around.

He would still be a massive threat even if discovered, though Zatanna in particular is a really good counter to Dalvia due to having fought similar opponents, having confronted her own heart before, with universal reality-warping, astral travel, and a far more versatile word magic.

In Marvel Comics, Dalvia would be considered a roughly skyfather level entity, being a universal threat. While a number of herald to transcendent level entities hypothetically could kill Dalvia if they detected him, if they don't notice him, he would be hypothetically corrupt them or worse possess them. This is made more likely because as Athena noted in the Chaos War, there is a corruption on a metaphysical level in the Marvel Multiverse that would hypothetically make them more vulnerable to such a corruption.

If given sufficient control, Dalvia could perhaps take on the role and power of a various Demon Lord like Mephisto, albeit one with stronger weaknesses then normal. He would probably lose against any strong skyfather however as they have similar power scaling to feats like Surter threatening to destroy the world tree, speeds far greater as well as haxes on a planetary scale or higher as a rule.

He would be a drastic threat to the Earth, with the best defenses being Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom but likely would not be able to be a threat to the whole of the 616 universe due to the influence of cosmic forces on his level or higher.

Fushigi Yuugi was also written by the writer of Alice 19th. In the Fushigi Yuugi universe would be absolutely and ridiculously above everyone but the god tiers, as most of the verse would only be able to compete with the power of the average Maram master, though both can have very versatility and hax.

That said the 4 Beast Gods would absolutely be able to beat Dalvia as they overpowered universal scale threats and transcend space, time, and dimensions and Dalvia has no feat of hitting things outside spacetime. They are able to seal entities, which would work hypothetically on Dalvia as they did to a intangible universal threat just like Dalvia. He could maybe affect them if they are summoned into spacetime by one of their priests but even then I can only see Dalvia defeating them one on one and against multiple Beast Gods he would be outgunned.

Dalvia in the Fushigi Yuugi-verse would be seen as a nigh-god tier, with his own priests just like the beast gods own priests, his being the Maram masters. Dalvia could potentially defeat a single Beast God if they were summoned into spacetime, but would get outnumbered if he tried to destroy the universe. 

In the Mother (Earthbound) series, another series reliant on psychological powers with it's own plot sequences of going inside the minds of characters, Dalvia would be roughly relative to, but not superior to the Top Tiers.

In terms of raw power, Dalvia would be comparable to Giygas who could destroy the universe and Ness who created the Magicant, a whole universe. While both of them have significantly stronger hax then Dalvia, it's possible manipulate them or take them off-guard. As such Dalvia would be a massive threat to the verse, though either Ness or Giygas should be able to stop Dalvia if they are not taken off guards, helped by Ness' psychological resilience (as he was able to defeat the Mani Mani statue which drives people greedy and selfish, completely unaffected)

Disney contains Kingdom Hearts, another series with similar themes of heart, as well as Alice in Wonderland which was an inspiration for Alice 19th. 

In terms of pure stats, Dalvia in the astral plane would be comparable to the toonforce users of the prime Disney reality that the Disney universes are aspects of. Dalvia can warp the universe of the heart, while the Disney characters have universal reality-warping feats, albeit on more planes (as well as the potential universal feats of a few other Disney realities like Kingdom Hearts). Dalvia's darkness can spread across the universe of a heart in days at most. For comparison in the other Kingdom Hearts reality, characters like Sora and Mickey can outpace Stitch's ship in Hyperdrive which can travel likely inter-galactic distances in minutes as well as to the reaction speed of Eega Beeva who can react to objects outside his spaceship that can traverse the universe. 

Dalvia would likely be similar to The Phantom Blot or Chernabog, a Dark Entity that could lord over a singular universe but would struggle against some of the strongest Disney Universes like Kingdom Hearts which is uniquely well suited to fight him due to the power of the heart giving resistance to his abilities, as well as vastly powerful hax. Dalvia would likely compare to most beings in the prime reality, but would lose against the named entities due to their sheer hax level on a more higher plane then he exists. It doesn't help for him that they are particularly resistant to his form of manipulation from the Kingdom Hearts resistances. 

Mini-Death Prediction Papillon Myu (Saint Seiya) vs Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon (Sailor Moon)

The butterfly in it's cycle of dying and being reborn through the process of metamorphosis has long been a symbol of the soul and the boundary of life and death, the cycling through of being reborn again.  Those characters who have the butterfly as their emblem then are often those who live on the boundary between the realm of life and the realm of death such as these two villains

Papillon Myu the Terrestrial Star Specter of the Bewitching Star from Saint Seiya

Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon the Star Hunter and Palace Guardian of the Shadow Galactica from Sailor Moon

I'm Imperator100 and this is a mini Death Prediction.

Papillon Myu:

Throughout time the 108 stars of darkness are born into human bodies. These are the specters, soldiers of the emperor of the underworld, god Hades. They are eternally pledged to serve their lord Hades. When Hades does will it, the 108 awaken their dark souls inside their human bodies, recalling their prior lives and allegiance, and pursue their dark lord's goals. 

Papillion Myu is a terrestrial star specter, one of the 2/3rds that serve the greater 1/3rd the celestial star specters, specifically serving in the division of the one of the judges of the underworld, the underworld's armies three strongest specters; Wyvern Rhadamanthys. He was commanded by his general Rhadamanthys to attack the Sanctuary protected by the gold saints of Athena where he faced off against the Aries gold saint Mu.

Cosmo:

In the beginning of the universe, all things were a single mass and the energy of the resulting explosion remains within every person's body resembling a mini-universe. By focusing body and spirit one can bring this energy, one's cosmo out. This is capable of destroying atoms or even at highly developed levels even subatomic particles. It allows for manipulating the atoms making up all things, allowing for destroying the non physical like hitting on the astral, spiritual or even conceptual plane of reality or control of natural forces such as those developing one's cosmo can make a waterfall flow backwards (1) (2) (3) as well as giving resistance to many of the abilities cosmo grants.

Cosmo's development is tracked by what sense has been awoken. Beyond the 5 senses of humanity is the sixth sense; the composition of all mankind's mental skills and which reaches into various psychic abilities including teleportation, sensing presences even in other realms, react subconsciously to danger and so forth.

The star spectres of Hades have developed even further achieving the seventh sense, even if terrestrial star spectres generally do not have such mastery as the gold saints of humanity. The seventh sense can replace all lesser senses and have a limited reality-warping turning impossibilities to possibilities. This is called the power of miracles and is unlocked by driving one's cosmo to the utmost. Having awoken the seventh sense, Myu should be able to use miracles though it seems to be somewhat difficult.

Papillon Myu's cosmo is relative to Aries Mu's though admittingly at the time of their fight Aries Mu was weakened to the point that another terrestrial star spectre claimed he was on the "brink of death". Still Mu did fear that a cosmo of Myu's level or a group of them could kill Leo Aioria. This should scale to Taurus Aldebaran who casually lifted the Braebus Talaton containing the weight of humanity's sins heavier then the celestial firmament. The celestial firmament contains conservatively millions of stars, more then the mass of small galaxies, and could be considered universe level. Via the power of miracles Myu should be able to reach universe level for brief moments anyway as Pegasus Seiya was able to raise his cosmo to create a big bang during the sanctuary arc.

His cosmo should also be fast enough to scale to sanctuary arc Ikki without his cosmo believing he could fly to the edge of the universe (1) (2) (3) which would require speeds quadrillions of times the speed of light. Given his performance compared to Aries Mu he may scale to another mid tier gold saint Capricorn Shura blocking an attack from Anti-Pope Aiolos traversing inter-universal distances in seconds at most requiring speeds nearing to just exceeding 1 quintillions of times the speed of light. With the power of miracles the same Capricorn Shura reached the speed of the initial expansion of the Big Bang, septillions of times the speed of light.

Bewitching Star Specter:

Papillon Myu has the powers of his dark star and his surplice, mystical armor given by Lord Hades. Myu is most well known for his power of "evolution", the ability to evolve and metamorphosize for which he is given the title of Papillon. Wyvern Rhadamnyths even claimed this ability would allow him to potentially defeat the gold saints though I am skeptical given it takes time and seems to be semi impractical in combat. He DID use it to regen from being sliced in half however (1) (2) (3).

Myu is known for his psychokinetic capacities, able to even paralyze the Psychokinetic Gold Saint Aries Mu (this was later shown to be Myu). For comparison Aries Mu even without his gold cloth was able to psychokinetically fix and turn his fallen tower upright. 

Myu has also shown three seperate techniques though it's unknown if he can do the first two in his peak humanoid state. He made energy burst out of him with an attack called "Ugly Eruption" which was strong enough that Mu used his defensive technique to protect himself.

He was able to use silky thread to bind Aries Mu so he could not move (1) (2) (3) and required him to use a desperate punch to get out of.

However Myu's ultimate attack is much more dangerous, called "Fairy Thronging" which summons a myriad of underworld butterflies that can block attacks even blocking the Stardust Revolution a technique of Aries Mu that can create a whole universe (1) (2) (3). These butterflies immobilize an enemy before opening a portal to the underworld that takes Myu's enemy to the underworld body and soul. This is especially dangerous as entering the underworld in Saint Seiya immediatly kills unless the affected has the eighth sense. Myu's butterflies can also track down people

Weaknesses:

Myu's biggest weakness is that his most potent ability, his evolution relies on taking time and as such isn't hugely helpful in one on one combat. Beyond that he wants to face opponents on even terms and doesn't abuse his haxes. 

Personality:

Papillon Myu, likes all the spectres of Hades is fanatically devoted to Hades, serving him across their incarnations and reincarnations. Outside of that he seems to be somewhat sadistically playful in fights as shown when he unparalyzed Aries Mu so he could fight him on even terms.

Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon:

The galaxy has fallen to war, as the golden queen Sailor Galaxia's empire the Shadow Galactica stretched across the milky way galaxy. The golden queen proclaimed that anyone who would kill her planet's sailor senshi could join Galaxia as one of her Sailor Animamates and thus survive, being bestowed the power of the crystal of the dead senshi. This led to the Sailor Animamates who just from circumstance were born a group of cold warriors devoted to survival above all else, willing to kill even their own planetary guardian for survival.

Little is known about Heavy Metal Papillon. It is known she is from the planet Cocoon and killed Sailor Cocoon to gain it's powers. It is also known that she is a highly emotional person and is a mother, suggesting she may have joined Galaxia in an attempt to save her child.

Stellar Energy:
Bestowed with the power of the Cocoon Crystal, Heavy Metal Papillon can use the energy of the star seeds, specificaly the guardian star seeds; the sailor crystals. Heavy Metal Papillon is a guardian of Galaxia's palace suggesting she is superior or at least comparable to the power of the other Sailor Animamates which were relative to the power of the Eternal Guardian Senshi. For instance Animamate Sailor Lead Crow equaled the power of Eternal Sailor Mars and even Sailor Tin Nyanko who harmed Eternal Sailor Moon. This is pretty important as the eternal sailor transformation is superior to the super sailor transformanation which is tens of thousands of times Sailor Moon's base state let alone her civilian form. Stars Arc Usagi in civilian form tanked a power greater then Eternal Sailor Moon's fourth form who one-shot Queen Nehelenia who maintained a parallel universe. In other words Heavy Metal Papillion scales to tens of thousands at least above baseline universal.

Eternal Sailor Senshi level entities also scale to the speeds of Eternal Amazon Senshi who moved comparable to the lambda power (1) (2). An aspect of the Lambda Power, the silver crystal's power traversed the universe instantly requiring speeds just exceeding 1 quintillion times the speed of light.

Stellar energies also give access to other abilities such as flight, the ability to survive in space, teleportation including teleporting with other people, restoration of the body (1) (2), undoing magic (1) (2), energy projection, sensing energy, and creating new techniques by charging material objects with energy

Cocoon Crystal:

Heavy Metal Papillion also has more abilities as the Sailor Animamate with abilities bestowed by the Cocoon Crystal.

The Cocoon crystal seems to have pyrokinesis primarily and Sailor Heavy Metal Papillion controls the dying flame of the stars which appears before her as butterflies. She can use her pyrokinesis to cremate enemies as strong as Eternal Sailor Moon as the guardian of the Galactica Palace graveyard. It's likely her ultimate attack "Galactica Scales" which by the title likely involves drawing power from Galaxia and becoming much stronger by comparison to the Galactica Sol Senshi fight involves fire though the technique was never actually seen.

Heavy Metal Papillon can also manipulate vines which were able to bind Eternal Sailor Moon and company despite their level of stellar energy. She is called the soul hunter suggesting she may be able to affect souls which would be consistent with other stellar energy users attacking non-physical ghosts and spirits.

Finally as a Sailor Animamate she has two Galactica Bracelets from Sailor Galaxia, binding her to Galaxia's will. These can absorb attacks and rip out enemy star seeds. All things have Star Seeds though interestingly Sailor Senshi are implied to have two, one representing their human identity and one representing their eternal nature as a Sailor Senshi (Sailor Crystal) suggesting that Star Seeds are connected to identities. Even Sailor Saturn gets existence erased having her star seed taken despite the fact that she can exist as a soul and can be reincarnated by her spirit. Even abstract Chaos who had fused with the source of all possibility, the galaxy cauldron has a star seed

Weaknesses:

Sailor Heavy Metal Papillion is an overly emotional and theatrical personality. Also if both of her braclets are destroyed or disconnected from her, she dies. (1) (2). Also as she is not a true Sailor Senshi, she doesn't have the hax resistance of the other Sailor Senshi.

Personality:

Like all the Sailor Animamates, Heavy Metal Papillion is a pragmatic killer, devoted to survival by aligning herself with Galaxia and by nature of her position willing to kill to preserve her life. She also is stated and to some extent shown in her brief time to be an overly emotional and dramatic personality.



Alright the combatants are set, it's time for a MINI DEATH PREDICTION

Deep in space, near the center of the galaxy Papillon Myu hurriedly advanced towards the center of this strange palace. General Wyvern Rhadamanthys had noticed a strange energy pattern emanating from deep in space and had sent him to investigate on the change it might interfere with Lord Hades' plans only for him to reach this place. Ahead he noticed a strange alien entity whose revealing blue outfit resembled a butterfly. What a strange irony. 

Through the streaming butterflies born of star's last dying embers Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon saw two glowing eyes peering through the darkness before a man wearing a shining metal armor, resembling of all things another butterfly appear from the butterflies visage. The soul hunter readied herself mentally for the upcoming confrontation.

"Halt, passerby. This land is the sacred resting place of the stars belonging to queen of the galaxy! Your soul entering this land is forfeit to our glorious queen!" Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon said anticipating an easy fight. The star seed of this passerby was weak and dimmed only softly. How he had even gotten here was a mystery.

Papillon Myu felt a not hugely strong cosmo emanate from this woman, however he did sense via his developed sixth sense an incoming danger and internally braced himself before exclaiming "If this "queen" of yours does interfere with the plans of Lord Hades, then you shall both die!"

Fight!

The two stood somewhat close in the beautiful galactica garden, the butterflies floated confused around them. Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon quickly shouted "Galactica..." preparing to finish this quickly with her ultimate attack.

However Papillon Myu had been informed of danger by his sixth sense and was prepared and quickly mentally released a wave of paralyzing force, holding Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon's body prone.

"Hahahaha" laughed Papillon Myu "You must know who you are dealing with...I am terrestrial star specter of the bewitching star, the great psychokinetic and now you are helpless girl."

A wave of emotion struck Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon at the thought of dying. "No! I can't die here" she thought "I've sacrificed too much!" and with a surge of emotion came a surge of stellar energy which knocked Papillon Myu back slightly and restored Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon's body.

"What power is this?!" mentally exclaimed Papillon Myu, not knowing how such power could have been hidden. 

"Hehehehehe" now it was Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon "Now that you're introduction is done, allow me to introduce myself...Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon, palace guardian of the Shadow Galactica!" and saying so vines came up and bound up Papillon Myu. Despite struggling with his great might, Myu could not break these supernatural bindings. 

Papillon Myu cried out in shock but as Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon again began to call forth a powerful burning fire to immolate him down to his soul Myu suddenly yelled "Ugly Eruption!" and powerful cosmo blasted out of him. Heavy Metal Papillon had no way of knowing how powerful his beams would be so she defensively brought up her bracelets to absorb the attack.

Myu hoped his attack would give him a moment and quickly called on the cosmo of the surrounding vines and flames and willed them away freeing himself. 

Heavy Metal Papillon looked at him with a sour expression but he gave a self-assured grin in return. "Your little tricks won't hold me down for long" said Myu pleased with him. The soul hunter of the Shadow Galactica internally began to worry at the strange abilities of her enemy and if she could beat him.

Papillon Myu again tried to psychokinetically hold this enemy but she suddenly disappeared. Unbeknownst to him she had simply teleported behind him hoping a surprise attack would kill him but his sixth sense activated again, and he subconsciously dodged out of the way of her fire attack from behind, dodging to the ground before psychokinetically bringing up a bunch of gravestones to block her fire.

The collision of the two created a smokey cover sending illuminated only by tiny pricks of fiery light, the butterflies of the stars floating through the inky void of space. Under cover Myu charged at his opponent. The soul hunter sensed her opponent's spiritual energy and quickly called down more fire on the location to immolate him, causing a sudden inferno to shoot up in front of her. She quickly approached hoping to take the interloper's star seed. In the fire Myu grinned sadistically as his plan worked as he quickly replenished his atoms through his cosmo and spat out a bunch of silk threads causing Heavy Metal Papillon to shriek in fear as the threads enveloped her.

"Got you now, butterfly trapped in the webbing" he said only mildly conflicted on if a butterfly should say such. He quickly created a blast of cosmo he hoped to atomize her with but she quickly raised her hands and the cosmo was sucked into her bracelets. Heavy Metal Papillon in a fearful burst released another bursting of stellar energies, burning away at the webbing.

She began to fly over the area, hoping to stay mobile so as to not get tied down again but her opponent began to fly just as easily and the two butterflies floated through the misty sky, daring each other mentally to make a mis-step.

Papillon Myu was first to act calling down his ultimate attack "Fairy Thronging" which called down his astral butterflies. Heavy Metal Papillon watched the strange harmony and discord of the fiery butterflies of hers mixed with the dark butterflies of the underworld and held up her bracelets in preparation. However just as quickly she felt herself becoming immobilized again.

"With this attack...you shall be brought down to the underworld..." said Papillon Myu. "This is the fate of the butterfly, emissary of life and death, to go to Lord Hades as prisoner or loyal servant"

However to Myu's chagrin, Papillon Myu popped out of existence. "You're wrong" she said sadly, hr voice piercing through the haunting cacophony of butterflies, burning passionate in inferno and looming like the black abyss "The butterfly is symbol of life as much as death, and she will do anything to protect the lives of her own".

"Even if you hide, my butterflies will find you" said Myu only to feel his sixth sense flare up just as his own butterflies flew towards him.

Right behind him teleported Heavy Metal Papillon who quickly struck out and stole his star seed.  She mentally relaxed and floated to the ground confident that this had finished him. However to her shock she saw a surging of energy floating in the area causing the nearby butterflies to be pushed away by a surging of energy. 

"How!" She said in shock "I took your human star seed!"

"I am not just a man..." came the low growl of Papillon Myu "I am a soldier of Hades, across all eternity, loyal terrestrial specter of the bewitching star!" and with that Myu surged out moving at speeds far faster then Heavy Metal Papillon could perceive with enough force to rend the cosmos and punched her throwing off Sagitarius Alpha Star and shattered one of her bracelets.

Heavy Metal Papillon looked around desperately as she saw her enemy, no longer surging with as much cosmo but with a dangerous burning killing intent in her eyes approach her and desperately she called down her butterflies to protect her but Myu charged directly at her, flinging the butterflies with his psychokinesis. He approached dangerously, confident in her newfound strength to win and prepared to break through this enemy of Hades and Heavy Metal Papillon yelled 

"Galactica Scales"  creating a Galactica amped burst of fire at Myu's position. Myu brought his butterflies before him to protect him only for it to burn through to him.

"What?!" he exclaimed in shock as the fire tore into his form. He quickly tried to restore his atoms but in the brief moment, filled with fury and fear Heavy Metal Papillon teleported near him and again ripped his star seed from him, this time causing the star specter to disintegrate.

The star hunter gave a sigh of relief, almost crying from the intensity of the fight before hurrying to give the star seeds to Lady Galaxia.

K.O.

So this fight is mostly determined by raw stats and mindset. In terms of stats Myu even with the power of miracles would be baseline universal or so while Heavy Metal Papillon would be over tens of thousands of times that meaning that Myu would have to rely on his hax to win while any even glancing blow from Heavy Metal Papillon would threaten to kill  Papillon Myu.

In terms of speed outside of a miracle, which is not something Myu can just do normally, both scale to things traversing to outside the universe instantly or almost instantly, Anti-Pope Aiolos and the power of the Silver Crystal, but Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon scales to the Eternal Amazon Senshi who moved comparable to the Lamdba power which has the silver crystal's power as a mere aspect suggesting Heavy Metal Papillon would be equal or superior to Papillon Myu.

In terms of mindset, while Heavy Metal Papillon is a bit of a dramatic personality, she is also one who would quickly take a threat very seriously because of it, while Papillon Myu tends to sadistically play with his enemies and not abuse his haxes like he would need too. Papillon Myu might be a better fight that could use the sixth sense to anticipate his opponents moves to some extent but it doesn't help much if he doesn't exploit his main advantages in this fight, especially since nothing I could find suggests the sixth sense has ever shown an opponent's weak point to an SS character.

In addition outside of melee almost nothing Papillon Myu could do would work since Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon can absorb his ranged attacks with her bracelets and because she can teleport which is what caused him so much trouble against Aries Mu and how Aries Mu twice escaped his ultimate attack. Unfortunately if he tries to melee he puts himself in prime position to be star seed ripped.

While being a specter might give him a second star seed like the Senshi have, this would only protect him once if that (as Sailor Aluminem Seiren ripped two Senshi's star seeds at once and Heavy Metal Papillon's star seed rip should be similar)

Papillon Myu could arguably send away all of Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon's attacks outside star seed rip and inter-dimensional teleport bfr with his control over natural forces and psychokinesis, though in fairness he and beings weaker then him don't have feats of controlling forces this strong, and even if they could, this really only pushes Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon into using her star seed rip. It doesn't help that again Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon could absorb almost all of his attacks in turn and while he could push away her bindings, she can not just destroy it with her stellar energy output but actually create a new attack with it by charging it with her stellar energy.

While it is true that if Papillon Myu's attack goes through and teleports her to the underworld that is an immediate gg for him, it should be noted Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon could also teleport him to another dimension to bfr, which is effectively a much stronger strategy as he has never shown teleportation between dimensions outside earth and underworld, and hers she can do at any point she is close while his requires a few moments to do, in which she can easily teleport away just like Aries Mu did.

Overall while both could counter most of each others arsenals, and Papillon Myu did have ways of killing her up close as well as more skill and mental ability, Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon's greater degree of raw power, more serious and focused mindset, and broken one-shot move suggest she is the more likely butterfly to fly away.

The winner is Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon

Ranking the current DCEU films

I have been historically a major proponet of the DCEU and so I would give my quick ranking of the films. This is simply my opinion as a massive fan of DC Comics, as someone who has read a large amount of the comics and as someone who has very particular likes.

Warning: Spoilers I suppose

8: Birds of Prey
I've seen some people get really angry at this film for it's perceived role in the culture war, and I honestly think it's an exaggerated. That said this film is pretty meh to me. I don't dislike it certainly. However it's just sort of an average superhero film to me. I really liked the beginning and the ending of the film which is very like Harley's more recent comics, which I happen to like. I sometime see people try and claim Current Harley is just female Deadpool but this seems a mischaracterization of both Harley and Deadpool. On the other hand while most of the film isn't the uber-feminist political tract I was afraid of, it's just slightly muted and dull. It doesn't help that this is probably the LEAST "comic book" comic book movie I have ever seen with supernatural abilities displayed literally once in the entire film. The film is almost not a superhero movie, as there is so little actual superhuman abilities. The villain is also easily the weakest villain of any of the DC films; I understand that they were going for the creepy misogynist type of villain that is common in media aimed at women, but those usually need something more to them. Compare Prince Demand from Sailor Moon or Kish from Tokyo Mew Mew. Neither of them are hugely more sympathetic then Film Black Mask but both were usually more dignified and had significantly more menace as well as a more entertaining presence. Also you know...superpowers. The film doesn't even try to hype up Black Mask in terms of power or intellect, outside of a few statements of how much power he has over Gotham. I don't really like the film versions of Black Mask and Cassandra Cain. Outside though the film was moderately entertaining, I liked watching Harley same as I do generally reading her comics (and the two are pretty similar, though I'd say Comic Harley seems a bit more unhinged and closer to violence despite ironically being out of prison for a lesser amount of time). The film's humor was alright, even if it did sometimes dip into bathos which I have a good distaste for. Fights were good, though I don't really go to films for fight scenes; they don't really do much for me outside of other factors that are mixing with the fights (like interesting tactical scenarios to think about, or emotional pathos between the characters fighting). Overall the film was about average for a superhero movie to me, which is the real disappointment.

7: Justice League (Theatrical Cut)
Release the Snyder cut already! Talking about Justice League in a group of DCEU fans is liable to bring up annoyance and distaste for the studio interference with Snyder's vision; a middling compromise that satisfied no one. The Snyder cut will I imagine bump this up considerably. As it is this film is a bit of a Frankenstein and as such is difficult to talk about. The film has parts that I thought were really good. I was very happy about the revival of Superman as I dislike the trope in fiction when such ability is possessed but then not actually used, although to be fair I think it was pretty clear they were going to revive Superman. I liked much of the stuff with Wonder Woman and Batman and their exchange. I liked the hints of what was going on with Darkseid and Apokalips. I like the pathos of Cyborg. But the bathos humor was somewhat painful and the film much like the prior film lacks clear thematic message, most likely due to studio interference. I yearn to see what this film would have been initially. It is better mostly due to Snyder's genius shining through at times and because I was incredibly hyped in the theater for Superman's revival. Also Stepphenwolf despite being really boring and clearly not a threat to Superman alone let alone the League, was still a better villain.


From this point we've got films all of which I really like and I don't wanna have to put them low, and them being low doesn't mean I didn't like them; but just because I love the rest of the movies on this list so much.

6: Shazam
Shazam is a really good movie with some great moments. Every proclamation of "Shazam" that was powerful filled my heart briefly with it's intensity. I love magic in general, and the magical parts of this film were really cool and filled with thematic depth. I loved the film's general theme-ing of the perfect human and of family both of which are themes close to me. The scene where Billy sees his biological mother again and the first thing he says is "I didn't mean to run away" as if for years he's struggled guiltily under the assumption his mother thought he ran away....kills me everytime. All the times the film is being serious and dignified are great! The comedy of the film..it's not bad particularly. Most of it is Shazam being a kid trying to act like a superheroic man which is central to the character. I don't cringe at it like I do bathos but it's something I only really find funny once and on rewatches I mostly just am waiting to get to the cool parts again. I do really cringe at the part where Billy ditches Freddy and he gets picked on by the other kids at their school; partially because it's really cliche and partially because I have insecurities at social humiliation. Outside that scene Shazam was great on the first viewing and on subsequent viewings is not quite as good but is still pretty good.

5: Suicide Squad
Despite everything, despite all the hate towards the DCEU, this is probably the film I consider most underrated. This film survived studio interference far better then Justice League. This is a daring film, a film of a deliberately bold and counterculture feel using punk and anarchistic images and themes. Despite this, it also manages to tie into the inspiring humanistic feel of the DCEU. DCEU haters suggest sometimes that doing Suicide Squad as the third film was a poor choice as they are relatively minor characters yet it feels strangely appropriate for this film, a film designed to make the audience rethink the meaning of these outcasts. The DCEU's films have clear humanistic tendencies in it's constant praise for the human condition, then Suicide Squad's message is that even the worst people have humanity within them. Everyone, the Squad included, expected them to be bad people, because as Harley says "We're bad guys! It's what we do!" The exaltation of their humanity strikes me so powerfully particularly in the climactic scene where Deadshot (I accidentally typo-ed for a second as "Dadshot" which is pretty funny imo) motivated by love for his daughter killed Enchantress. I appreciate all the little touches this film does, even if it's aesthetic is not my usual preference. I don't know how to address all the important things I want to about this film in a brief timeframe, the way it builds up the humanity in all of the villainous protagonists in the little things they do. It takes the best superhero films to surpass this film for me. It's underrated I think in part because of it's deliberately antagonistic tone, befitting the characters. Watching this is indeed like interacting with an abrasive, aggressive villain with a deeper humanity. I like it more then Shazam because while both are really good films with a few really great moments, Suicide Squad goes about it in a far more peculiar unique way.

4: Aquaman
The prior two films are films that are a few moments penetrating into the deeper metaphysical beauty of reality, surrounded by adventure stories. Aquaman on the other hand is an adventure film floating like the surface of the ocean on the deeper reality, the two connected more seamlessly. Aquaman is a compelling adventure sure, but whereas Shazam and Suicide Squad both had adventures that occasionally stopped the adventure to reach into the human psyche, Aquaman is a film that naturally dips into it before coming back up, far more seamlessly. It's hard to get into the underlying symbolism so deeply woven is it, but there is so much interwoven into how the truth that Aquaman searches is hidden with the Trench as opposed to the wide philosopher kingdom or among humanity. It is the same reason the Inferno comes before the Purgatorio, to confront true reality requires first communicating with the dark parts, requires listening to the things and people you don't want to listen to because you are afraid of what they will expose. It is an incredibly timely message; in a world where we view those we agree with as the true philosophers and those we disagree with as the dark monsters, the film's suggesting the way to truth will require listening to the trench is a radical and important one. The film does what I would try to do with any character like Aquaman (IE a character made a long time ago and who has persisted since) and show how vital and powerful the underlying concept is. Aquaman "talks to fishes"; a power regularly and constantly mocked for decades but this film shows the underlying meaning and importance of this power, an ability that facilitates communication is the ability that reveals the truth and the ability that proclaims the king. Ocean Master is one of the best villains in the entire DCEU, representing purity not just of blood but of mind, an unwillingness to compromise one's base intuition by comparing it to the complex world of one's enemies. The final section in it's entirety is truly great, as while Aquaman's original trident representing his original viewpoint was shattered so too does the trident he receives representing his ability to listen to the apparently monstrous, to facilitate communication destroy Ocean Master's representing ideological single-mindedness. I also really love, as might be guessed of my romantic temperament the love story between Aquaman's parents. And more too I love the allusion to Lovecraft and it's meaning on a meta-narrative sense. Lovecraft was deathly afraid of the oceans and of the impurity they represented. It is not a coincidence the film references The Dunwhich Horror instead of the seemingly more on point Shadow over Innsmouth, showing the modern refutation; for The Dunwhich Horror is about a halfbreed bringing about the meeting between worlds  and almost causing calamity, Aquaman is about a halfbreed bringing about the meeting between worlds and saving them both. This is the modern age in the humanist light; a time of communication and reconciliation as opposed to ideological fanaticism and close-mindedness.

3/2: Man of Steel and Wonder Woman
I alternate between which of these films I love more, though I do truly love them both. These are no longer some of my favorite superhero films, but some of my favorite films in general. MoS and WW are both truly great films, films where large sections are entrenched in mythos and the humanist revolution. To talk about them both for a bit:

Man of Steel, the dawning of the DCEU is a film I am still fond to talk off all this time. It does in it's first 20 minutes create a Shakespearian Drama, creating a complex tragic doomed world. It is a film devoted to extolling the virtues of humanity, taking every possible opportunity to showcase humanity at it's best. It is a beautiful expression on the importance of human free will and our capacity to rise above what others deem for us. The whole section of Man of Steel from the first time transition to Clark working on the boat to the first contact was amazing to see. It contains one of my favorite moments in all of fiction; the first flight sequence, a capturing of the primordial feeling of transcending above earthly limitation speaking to the heavenly destiny and the ascension of Superman fills me with a nigh religious experience. The first flashback sequence with young Clark always hits me so hard because I relate so hard. I may not have had supervision like Clark but I was a very sensitive young girl who was easily overwhelmed and sometimes fainted from sheer stimulation. That horrifying feeling of the world being too big and overwhelming me with sheer stimulation, the want for it all to shrink down...I felt that pain so much. I don't think I've ever related to Superman, who is one of my favorite characters in fiction, so much. The feeling of being overwhelmed by the immensity of the world, the feeling of wanting to emulate the greatness you see in humanity, the sheer joy at overcoming your inherent limitations. The following section is not quite as great but I do truly adore it still with such moments like constantly, constantly showing humanity willing to do the right thing even if it kills them, Superman nigh-literally flying with the weight of the world on his shoulders...the film is so full of gravitas and digitas. It is not a dark film as some say, though I think when they say they are trying to say it's a serious film; in other words it has a heavy tone even though it's message is the greatness of humanity. I greatly protest people calling it dark because thematically it simply isn't clearly. It is a serious film, though I don't see why this is somehow an error. I prefer my superheroes, my modern demigods to be serious, to take the trappings of mythological grandeur with complete dignity. It is part of what I dislike about bathos. It also has General Zod, who is one of the greatest comic book villains ever made; full of threat and menace, completely understandable and sympathetic in his goal, and entertaining in his scene; a truly well realized archetype.

Wonder Woman is a film that gets a divided response from DCEU fans. Some consider it seriously flawed if enjoyable while others, myself included put it up there in the likes of Dawn of Justice and Man of Steel. I think perhaps in our community while this occurs is the film's strange blurring of idealism and realism represented archetypal in the main female and male leads Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor, which btw is my favorite romance in the DCEU so far. The beginning part of Wonder Woman creates the air of the fairy tale story and environment that Wonder Woman is born into and creates I think the needed idealistic air that the horrid war will contrast too later. I love the first part, especially Hippolyta's words of love to Wonder Woman as she leaves for man's world. I relate strongly to Wonder Woman's idealism and difficulty in adjusting to the strange world of men she finds herself in. The second part of Wonder Woman is good though not great, the part between the boat scene to the scene before the trenches. I do like how it introduces the characters, particularly in showing Wonder Woman's gentleness and sweetness in her love for such things as babies and ice cream contrasted with the fierce warrior we usually see. I also like it's introduction to the other members of Steve's squad, particularly the cute language speaking introduction with Sameer. That said it's somewhat formulaic as a typical duck out of water story. While I related somewhat I didn't consider it the greatness of the later part. But when it gets to that later part....WOW. The No Man's Sequence was so great! The second part of the film goes on to deliberately contrast the white and black views of Diana with reality, not just of moral grayness but also showing that the disreputable characters she was associated with in truth are conflicted people (beginning the film's humanistic bent), haunted by past experience and loss. But that finale was truly the greatest part. Steve's dying speech to Diana and his sacrifice is what cements them as my favorite DCEU romance so far. "I can save today, you can save the world". It so well brings back all the important moments from the movie's runtime. Ironically my favorite moment is the moment that seems to get most criticism; Wonder Woman's ascension to her powers and defeat of Ares by the power of love. Perhaps it is my love for Magical Girls, but this didn't strike me as a sudden development or at odds with the rest of the piece. It's why the film is set during World War 1, the darkest most morally grey war of the modern period. It is why the film shows it's other heroes as morally grey, hurt by the world, and it's so true. It is why Plato said "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." We all struggle between right and wrong, but only love is the force that moves the individual to the good, only love eternal can save the world.

As you can tell I really love both of these films. Man of Steel is so classically beautiful and elegant. Wonder Woman is so romantically beautiful and resonant. It's really hard to pick between the two. I like Man of Steel's development part more then Wonder Woman's development part, because it is a unique expression of humanity's greatness that relating to me in a personal way I've never experienced but I like Wonder Woman's fulfillment of that development part more then Man of Steel's because it is not just a physical victory and a victory of the mental philosophies represented in the two sides, but it is a spiritual victory resonating in my emotions. I generally like Man of Steel's plot more the Wonder Woman's since it is tighter, faster paced and most of us more derived in transpersonal philosophical concepts. On the other hand I generally like Wonder Woman's characters more; Man of Steel's humanity is almost pure archetype; humanistic ideals of humanity that act always with reason and morality outside of some literal children. While this is heartwarming it is I will admit somewhat simplistic while Wonder Woman's humanity does a fantastic job at capturing the pained reality of humans trying their best in grey situations where it doesn't seem like there are heroes and villains.

That said I don't consider either as good as my favorite DCEU film

1: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
In the DCEU community this film is not just seen as a good film. Many of us, to my experience, talk about how this film inspired us to be better people. Dawn of Justice is one of three films I would give a 10/10 score too. Bear in mind that a score doesn't show a lack of weak points, but a work's ability to make you ignore it's weak points. I love every scene, character, and part of the film. If it was pragmatically feasible, I would watch this film every day. Very often I think of the words of the film to inspire me. There's no way I could capture my feelings about this film in any reasonable amount of time but I'll try to give an idea. Dawn of Justice is a film about recognizing humanity in others as interpreted by two of the most famous archetypal figures of our time; Batman and Superman. In my estimation "humanity" is the concept that binds these two archetypal figures together. In my view; Batman is the struggle for the human to become inhuman; it is the story of tragedy ripping out the humanity in a tragedy-stricken boy's heart forcing him to strive to become something greater then a human; a perfect symbol of justice that never shows any weakness. Superman in contrast is the struggle for the inhuman to become human; an outsider of our kind who with his super senses and super mind and just from his distance can see the greatness in us we can't see in ourselves and wishes to emulate and become, taking for himself the moniker of the Superman; literally the traits of man exaggerated to the absolute. This is a film showing the intersection and near death of those two quests only to save each other. Superman's quest in the course of the film is to be understood as a human and not outcasted by humanity (you'll recognize this as Lex Luthor's psychology and his quest; to de-legitimize Superman's attempt to be seen as a human). This gives us the quote that truly changed me and possibly my favorite part of the film: "Maybe he's not some sort of Devil or Jesus character. Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing." This right here, this is the modern evolution of humanistic revolution Dante started; recognizing that our idols and our enemies are just humans like us. I've since a young age struggled with seeing things in very black and white terms and this showed me in a way I hadn't grasped that humans are all trying to do the right thing. It's a message timely and timeless. It applies I imagine to us all; I've seen it; people projecting bad intent and maliciousness to their "enemies" and perfection to their "guides". Conversely Batman's quest in this film is losing his humanity as he loses all faith in the progression of his world towards the good. This is something constantly teased in Batman material, that Batman might go off the edge and finally lose his sanity. While Superman's villains are representations of social ills, Batman's are representations of psychological ills and Batman's attempt to fight them can be seen as metaphors for the sane rational mind to fend off mental collapse and insanity. This is why the climax of the film is that beautiful moment when Batman realizes Superman's humanity...realizes that in almost killing Superman he was almost killing himself; that he had become for a moment the murderer that had killed his parents. There are so many beautiful moments I want to talk about; Lois telling Superman that this (the symbol on his chest meaning hope) is all some people have trying to persuade him to not fall to despair, the way Batman introduces himself as "a friend of your son" as opposed to saying I'm Batman like you'd expect, the way at Superman's funeral says "if you're looking for his monument, look around" acknowledging all the heroes who die who aren't consciously remembered by showing their heroism lives on in the world they created....I love this film so much.

I believe in this film's message. I believe despite all the dehumanization we see now, all the attempts at riding each other of our shared humanity, that the spirit of shared humanity will shine through and someday we shall be reconciled.

The Peakest Human

Ok pretty simple idea, but just wanted to explore it quickly; rating my favorite verses in terms of who has the strongest hypothetical peak human.

This is specifically a human with no external aid; no technology, no magic (that is not available to all humans in verse), no external power sources, no metahuman mutations. Simply a human who has peak human stats in all categories (including physical and mental like skill and intelligence) and whatever abilities can be granted by training really hard.

Going to be classifying all 32 quickly though each section should be pretty short.

Unclassifiable: Wander over Yonder
There's literally no humans ever seen in verse. While presumably they exist there is literally no way to tell how strong they would be relatively speaking.



NGL the next 5 were easily the hardest to decide because the humans in verse lack any feats of note making it extremely hard to figure out the order. Take the order of the bottom 5 as basically just a guess.

31: Commedia
No particullarly special feats for humans. Was written hundreds of years ago where people were on average slightly shorter so figured it would be at the weakest due to reach and slight mass.

30: Shamanic Princess
The only normal humans seen in series are Tiara's classmates who have no notable feats. It's not even confirmed that normal humans have capacity to reach enlightenment and fuse with Yord as Tiara did since she is a mage from mage world. That said is a modern verse so would likely be slightly superior in reach and mass.

29: Cardcaptor Sakura
All feats for humans are for magic-users which not all humans can do. That said Tomoyo has shown a degree of intuition that was praised by Clow Reed and seems to transcend the normal human level for our verse, which is legit enough to be a tie breaker with SP

28: Axis Powers Hetalia
Pretty much the same physically since the series focuses almost entirely on anthromohpic countries but the APH-verse humans are used to the countries violent warring including the annual bloodbaths, so they are probably more used to violence and perhaps a bit more desensitivied to it.

27: Yuki Yuna is a Hero
Takes place in the future in a small isolated community after the destruction of most of the world suggesting that if current trends hold the people might be slightly bigger and healthier from future tech and/or possibly more efficient in their thought from having to survive with less resources? Yes it's a huge stretch but it's the best I could do to decide between people who have no feats.



Now we can get onto the verses that actually have feats for normal humans


26: Tokyo Mew Mew
Normal humans don't have any special physical stats but Ryou Shirogane was able to create advanced technology showing a super intellect suggesting a TMM verse Peak Human has a superhuman intellect

25: Cutie Honey
Pretty similar to TMM except Honey's father has arguably better intelligence feats then Ryou since he created from scratch a device that could change the air particles to practically anything while Ryou was partially adapting the alien's technology.

24: Stanley Parable
Only two humans ever appear in the series (Stanley and Mariella) one of them only appearing for seconds, so I have to judge by Stanley who survived a long fall requiring superhuman, possibly wall level durability. Though he can't run or jump (literally an achivement called "you can't jump"). While CH Peak Human could possibly outwit using this, SP Peak Human would probably take majority.

23: Over the Garden Wall
Debatable based on if you think you can use the Woodsman using his axe to threaten The Beast, and if you think so might be higher. Outside of that, Wirt and Greg have subsonic speed feats which should be enough to avoid and wear down SP Peak Human or otherwise incapacitate via environment.

22: xxxHolic
Watanuki has comical joke feats of moving fast enough to blurry speed (subsonic) and also of surviving long distances which would be superhuman in durability. I can't allow magic but this should be strong enough to beat OTGW Peak Human via similar speed and more durability

21: Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt
If you use Garterbelt's physical stats then obviously much higher but I think God's curse gave Garterbelt too long a time to get stronger to consider. P&S humans have moved faster then eye comically, Briefs was punched through stone and normal cops survived a massive car pile up. That's a more caroonishl high feat of durability then xxxholic-verse and likely also scales to attack potency. Plus the verse is much more prone to violence and desensitized.

20: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Jonouchi and Yuya both have feats of beating real world peak humans as well as subsonic and wall level+ feats like recovering from being struck by lightning or being smashed into wall structures. Yugioh Peak Human also has MHS reaction speed from Labyrinth Duelists reacting to lightning moving through water. Similar stats but better reaction to speed to P&S Peak Human

19: Ouran High School Host Club
Tamaki, who is physically the weakest or closest to it of the male hosts has comical faster then eye feats and feat of being slammed into a wall, and Honey and Mori are massively stronger. They also have superhuman skill feats of fighting numerous armed bodyguards on their level which would give hem edge in fighing skill.

18: Freedom Force
Golden Age Heroes without energy x beat genetically modified gorillas (Kill-a-Rillas) and Blackjack has a faster then the eye feat. Similar speed and stats but higher intelligence (superintelligence) as well as possibly MHS reflexes based on humans being able to react to Bullet who moves at the speed of lightning.

17: Bayonetta
Luka has survived being thrown through multiple stone pillars which is a higher degree of wall level, a wall level+ feat then any of the wall level feats before. Not quite as fast confirmed but still low superhuman.

16: Metroid
Scaling to Zero Suit Samus is wrong since she was genetically modified by the Chozo. That said, they can survive and even tank planets with 960x Earth gravity requiring wall+ level energy being tanked as well as would push them to near sound speed.

15: Puella Magi Madoka Magicka
Mostly comes from Tamura, the comedic Madoka series. Entering Witches barriers without being invited taking energy equivalent to wall level+ energies and humans can do it. In addition there is superintelligence enough to create power armor, robots, and Madoka's healing skill to revive from DEATH without magic. Superintelligence and healing would give a win against slightly stronger Metroid Peak Human

14: God of War
God of War humanity is much stronger able to survive on a much more massive planet and being larger then us. Weak Humans can tank being smashed through stone walls and briefly survive falling hundreds of meters. They range up to low building level like 4 Spartans pulling done a giant stone statue of Ares, or possibly higher as Last Spartan making it up the Temple of the Fates. They can also fire arrows at near supersonic speeds. This plus their incredible fighting skill suggests that it would defeat PMMM Peak Human

13: Magic Knight Rayearth
Using Cephiro Humans, which should be valid as Cephiro is an alternate universe, similar to using alternate versions of humans, the strongest without magic was Lafarga who could create nigh city-block attacks from a distance with just the sheer shockwave of his blows and scales to subsonic to supersonic speeds from Ascot. Raw stats win over GOW Peak Human.

12: Princess Tutu
Possibly impossible to rate since the whole thing takes place in Drosselmeyer's story which explains strange feats, but assuming you allow that as that is normal for verse humans, the Prince fought the Raven who dwarfs a town to a standstill and the dancing of the humans or anyone in verse that is good enough can warp reality. Assuming peak human reality-warping is at least comparable to Princess Tutu's, this is enough to even warp reality on a town scale.

11: Magicka
The novel speaks of human barbarian tribes who can physically kill Magicka Wizards, scaling to their Hypersonic speeds and Multi-City Block Stats. This isn't quite as strong as Princess Tutu Peak Human but is much faster then it's vague subsonic speed meaning that a Magicka Peak Human should be able to blitz and just slash at them over and over until they die.

10: Danny Phantom
Danny Phantom humans use technology to fight ghosts but it seems more based on negating the ghosts advantages of intangibility and invisibility and they seem to be able to compare to low tier ghosts, who scale in turn to Episode 1 Danny making a multi-city block crater and season 1 Danny lightning-timing. DP verse Peak Human also has supergenius intellect able to create missiles able to destroy whole universe sized areas made of ectoplasm and other super advanced equipment.

9: Sailor Moon
Sailor Moon Peak Human is basically Pre-Golden Crystal Tuxedo Kamen who scales to Sailor Moon accidentally threatening a dimension calced at least to kiloton range (this is a lowball admittingly) and was able to avoid Fully Awoken Sailor Venus's attack which scales to Pre-Awakening Minako traveling to Venus at faster then light speeds and possibly to Weaver Stars traveling to Earth at dozens of times the speed of light. Also supergenius intellect scaling from Professor Tomoe creating the daimon and other inventions. Sheer speed suggests SM Peak Human speedblitzes DP Peak Human

8: The Powerpuff Girls
Humans survived via toonforce a missile that devastated the city of townsville and scale to Amoeba Bros physically who are joke villains relying strictly on abilities who matched the speeds of the PPG in the pilot where they could travel to the Sun at 50c and in the film at a few days old the PPG traveled to Earth at 1.2c. Scaling to Professor Utonium gives supergenius intellect. SM vs PPG Peak Human is actually really balanced and while SM Peak Human has the protection of the Silver Crystal giving agelessness, the ability to survive in space, and possibly flight, I think PPG Peak Human is just smarter. While humans tend to act smarter in SM then PPG, and while both Tomoe and Utonium created advanced beings (the daimons/the ppg, mojo) Professor Tomoe has invented nothing else comparable outside of the dimension thing in the Mugen Elevator (which may have been the work of the daimons) and it's implied part of his great hybrid of human and daimon was because of the daimons' help. Utonium on the other hand also created Dynamo, a time machine and more showing a more generalized intellect.

7: Yu Yu Hakusho
Basically Sensui. Not as fast or as intelligent as PPG Peak Human, but country level stats from training of natural human reiki means can tank all attacks and can one-shot

6: Pretty Cure
Basically Criasu Corporation who scale to planet level based on Pretty Cure scaling to Elisio's planetary reality warping and also lightning timing as well as having superintelligence (created time travel and time freeze devices)

5: Xiaolin Showdown
As the Xiaolin use chi it seems like you could basically just use  Grandmaster Dashi the top tier. Scales to Wuya's casual low stellar feat of shaping the Sun's surface which is consistent with being significantly stronger then large planet level beings. Also scales to faster then the Showdown Transitions which can take far into space quickly requiring hundreds of times the speed of light. Also has creation and mystical reality-warping from chi and has Jack's superintelligence.

4: Okami
Powerful humans are stronger then beginning of game Amaterasu who could casually with a single dab of her celestial paint brush create a star in a distant star system at millions of times the speed of light. While XS Peak Human could maybe beat Okami peak human with prep time using superintelligence and hax abilities, Okami Peak Human blitzes in a no prep fight.

3: DC Comics
Karate Kid, the godly skilled being who can fight galactic level pre-crisis superboy and post-crisis kryptonians as well as scales to quadrillions of times lightspeed movement and possibly much higher reaction speed (can tag Superboy Pre-Crisis). Plus Lex Luthor Level intelligence which is powerful enough to basically just mind hax someone by speaking. More powerful, more hax, faster, smarter

2: Undertale
Scales to Peak Frisk who could fight Universal Entities like God Flowey or Asriel Dreemur and can reform their soul from the sheer power of DETERMINATION. Determination also gives other abilities like creation as well as SAVE and LOAD. Speed's a bit lower, but power is so much higher and while mind hax is dangerous, I think UT Peak Human would win via hax, particularly godly regen.

1: Saint Seiya
Kinda cheating tbh, as humanity uses cosmo to make them like them gods, giving them cosmic stats surpassing anyone else here as well as a variety of abilities including atomization of the soul which would stop Load from working. Strongest human normally would probably be Pegasus Tenma who matched Hades himself, though Pegasus Seiya briefly attained higher in Overture Movie. If you stretch you can even use the Gods here, as the Gods were humans who awoke the 9th sense and became the Gods for all eternity, retroactively giving them histories as gods, but as it changed their nature from human to god I don't count it. But yeah, Low Multiversal scaling from Hades maintaining 3 universes, speeds septillions or higher above the speed of light, atomization, hitting non-physical entities, reviving from death, reality-warping, etc.

How they compare: Punie-chan (Dai Mahou Touge)

In another dimension is the kingdom of "Magical Land". There the crown princess Punie-chan is sent to live a year on Earth as a test to become the queen of Magical Land. However unlike most magical girls with a similar premise, Magical Land is actually a Fascist Empire and Punie-chan despite her cute looks is really a sadistic psychopath who plans to eventually add Earth to her magical empire as the queen.

Punie-chan lives out a year on the planet Earth, living as a normal school age girl, but when she needs to she can invoke her magic wand with her magical incantation "Lyrical Tokarev, Kill Them All!" and perform her magic to...usually the detriment to all around her.

Punie-chan is very physically capable to the point to the point that with her magic sealed she ran up the arm of a dark god and snapped his finger, which had previously tanked creating a punch that shattered the ground and ripped through a nearby building as a consequence. The dark god then recogized Punie-chan and ran away in fear.

Punie-chan is durable enough that when her twin little sisters who seek to assassinate her for the throne amped themselves and punched Punie-chan into the nearby school destroying it, she continued to fight just fine. Even when she was younger she could survive numerous blows capable of shattering her bones hitting her skull.

She is also able to superleap fast enough to escape a massive pit trap that was created to kill her and leap up onto the arm of a dark god summoned to kill her. 

As might be expected, Punie-chan's most notable ability is her magic. Her magic seems to include general all purpose reality warping or at the very least being able to heavily modify matter and space, as well as large scale summoning. To help out one of her classmates on a date she modified the rides with her magic to be scarier, including causing a roller coaster to go so high as to reach the clouds and turning the inside of a haunted mansion into an entire city.

She can grand animacy to things as she did to an entire army of vegetables commanding them to kill her schoolyard bullies and has summoning abilities able to summon up not just a city but also a giant squid monster larger then buildings. It is strongly implied she conjured up off screen horses, spears and guns for her cavalry. 

She is probably most well known for what she calls her "cuteness charm" though I'm not clear if this is actual magic or literally just her being so cute in-universe that it acts like a form of mindhax but her presence is cute enough to cause dozens of boys at her school to adore her as super cute even as she is commanding a vegetable army to kill people and was even able to make them gun down their fellow classmates for the sake of winning the school sports festival. Her vegetable army is also so loyal to her that they will willingly kill themselves or allow themselves to be turned into curry for her will. 

She can travel through dimensions and even was able to bring one of her classmates with her to show her magical land showing she can dimensionally bfr.

She also one time, afraid of failing a math exam, summoned a magical nuclear device capable of blowing up everything in 1 ASTRONOMICAL UNIT requiring energy comparable to a supernova.

Punie-chan is actually very skilled in "princess submission holds" which involves grappling with an enemy and pinning them down before painfully and sadistically break each joint of their body. Her "princess headlock" was even successful against an opponent whose joints can spin 360 degrees. Her skill is enough to successfully fight master fighters like Captain Paya Livingston, who was a grizzled war veteran, in hand to hand and as mentioned before defeated a dark gob by jumping on his arm, running up it and snapping one of his fingers, making him run away in fear.

Punie-chan is very manipulative, able to easily pit her twin sisters against each other and is also very aware of cute witch tropes and during a dramatic love confession mouthed the appropriate lines from a distance as they were being said. She is very good at avoiding traps due to a lifetime of dodging assassination attempts and has also memorized her multiplication tables!

She doesn't have much in the way of weaknesses outside of being not very good at math. The one notable thing is that her speed isn't actually notably higher then a normal humans outside of leaping speed. This has notably given her particular trouble fighting numerous opponents on her relative level at once, as demonstrated when her two little sisters amped themselves and almost beat her. She has beaten numerous opponents before, but only when they were signifigantly physically weaker then her, meaning abilities like summoning and duplication would probably be relatively strong. 

Name: Punie-chan, Magical Princess Punie-chan, Punie Tanaka

Origin: Magical Witch Punie-chan 

Classification: Cute Witch, Magical Princess from another dimension, Sadistic psychopath

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman strength and durability, magic, spatial manipulation/reality-warping/summoning (city scale), can summon a magical nuclear device capable of wiping out everything in an astronomical unit, animacy, mind hax (Cuteness charm, can control dozens of people at once at least), Inter-Dimensional Travel/Dimensional BFR, is a skilled and intelligent fighter

Weaknesses: Not good at fighting multiple enemies at once, math

Destructive Capacity: Building level physically, likely city level with magic, large star level with magical nuclear device

Range: City. Inter-Dimensional with teleportation

Speed: Athletic Human, superhuman leaping speed

Durability: Building level

Stamina: Unknown

Standard Equipment: Magic Wand (can summon at any time)

Intelligence: Good manipulator and skilled fighter, aware of cute witch tropes

So how would she do in other verses?

In the DC/Marvel universes Punie-chan would do relatively similar. That is for the most part not great. Her lack of speed and only really street tier power means in terms of raw power means any decent street tier could defeat her physically. That said her magic could threaten a large number of more characters, especially if she uses cuteness charm hax. That said any serious Marvel Psychic or DC Mage should be able to stop her. The Psychics would have better resistance to her charm but the Mages would have better way of countering dimensional abilities. Even if she tried to use her bomb the strongest superheroes could easily stop it. In DC it would basically be the end of Superman: Red Son again. Overall she'd be a lower bound street tier threat with magic hax that could threaten into the meta tiers.

 

Master Blasters who made the Magic Knight Rayearth anime also did Dai Mahou Touge so how would Punie-chan do in Cephiro.

Physically speaking Punie would be roughly comparable to the monsters that sprung up around Cephiro when the Pillar's heart was overtaken being roughly building level, below the strongest fighters of the verse like Lafarga by a good margin meaning she could be taken out early. If she is not however she would rapidly become a massive threat like a minor pillar given her powerful reality warping, amplified by the fact that in Cephiro one's will rules all and Punie has a high willpower, able to fight through numerous blows to the head each strong to break her bones. If she can get into contact with certain key figures of the surrouding figures of worlds near Cephiro like Princess Aska of Fahren or Tatra of Chizeta her manipulation and cuteness charm would allow her to quickly become a threat to the whole of Cephiro and the surronding worlds. Fortunately the Magic Knights willpower is strong enough to resist mindhax and reality-warping on a level surpassing even Punie-chan.

Comparing Punie-chan from the darkest cute witch series vs the characters from Ojamajo Doremi, the brightest cute witch series, Punie would be paradoxically a bottom tier fodder and a god level top tier threat.

On the one hand, Punie's cuteness charm and manipulation would be very effective in Doremi and they would have no idea at first of her insidious psychopathic internal nature. She could very well one-shot the verse with a giant magical nuclear device. Her reality-warping would be strong for the verse.

On the other hand, her power would be below the witch's assistants let alone actual witches as even a witch assistants could turn into a Pseudo-Gundam. Also characters are constantly together and using friendship and teamwork and Punie struggles fighting multiple enemies at once. 

She could solo the verse casually or get completely negged in the very first encounter, depending on starting info, her motivation and her mindset.

 

In another bright cute witch series, Akazukin Chacha, Punie would do interestingly. She would be above all the general fairy tale monsters and youkai of the verse but well below the great wizard Seravy or the evil witch Dorothy or the Devil King who would have easily conjured the magical world if it was not for Seravy. 

In a fight between her and Chacha herself.....so Chacha should win fairly easily on paper due to higher stats and versatility, but Punie is a much better magician then Chacha who often comically messes up spell (for instance conjuring something that sounds like what she was trying to summon). Punie would probably win 8/9 out of 10 times with Chacha winning pretty much due to luckily getting her spells right or her spells going wrong in a way that doesn't advantage her. To put it another way, both Punie and Chacha are meant to be comically overpowered compared to normal humans but Punie is also comically competent to be menacing while Chacha is comically incompetent to be funny.

 

So Sugar Sugar Rune is a magical girl series about witches from Monster World meant to be a playful subversion of normal mg villains being inter-dimensional emotional energy manipulators. How would they do against another darker magical girl inversion with a cute witch being psychopathic instead of innocent.

Punie-chan would fit in really well as a mid to high tier magic user in the Sugar Sugar Rune World. They have direct feats that are building scale for attack potency like Rockin Robin affecting a building and turning it into two buildings each half the size of the original and a powerful Ogre creating an entire beach with reality warping. They can even match her level of emotional manipulation with top tiers being able to steal the hearts (emotional states) of dozens of humans at once. 

Punie chan wouldn't be able the top tiers who have feats like flying between Earth and Moon over 3,000 times or 7 powerful mages creating a whole universe that said against most mages she'd do pretty well, the two being able to match in most categories. She would have a really fair fight against Chocolate or Vanilla unless she gets into melee range which in fair would not be often given their flight. 

Hilariously enough, Monster World views cuteness to be unattractive and ugly but scariness to be cute and attractive meaning Punie-chan's cuteness charm and normal manipulation would be completely ineffective but when she switches to her scarier serious mode she would be seen as adorable and attractive.