Thursday, March 26, 2020

Verse Challenge: Could the Aesir of Norse Myth stop Typhon of Greek Myth?


Typhon was the most ferocious monster, the father of all monsters in Greek Mythology, one of the strongest beings in the entire cosmology, who almost beat mighty Zeus supreme. 

The Norse Gods, the Aesir primarily are the divine lords of the 9 realms hanging from the world tree Yggdrasil until Ragnarok. 

If Typhon escaped imprisonment, finding himself in Midgard, would the Norse Pantheon be able to defeat Typhon?



Typhon is one of, and one could argue potentially the strongest being in the entire Greek mythological cosmos outside the Fates. Born of primordial entities Gaia (The Earth) and Tartarus (The abyss where the wicked would be condemned), Typhon was born by Gaia out of hatred for the Olympians who slew her children the giants. Befitting the position of his birth, Typhon was born to bring annihilation to even the powerful Olympian Gods. 

Even relatively minor Gods can create constellations as Persephone did to the bull Cetus turning it into the constellation Taurus, a constellation with 19 main stars. However the top tiers are massively stronger then this.

The first generation of Olympians did clash with the Titans in a battle that shook the cosmos including the infinite sized primordials

"The boundless sea rang terribly around, and the earth crashed loudly: wide Heaven was shaken and groaned, and high Olympos reeled from its foundation under the charge of the undying gods, and a heavy quaking reached dim Tartaros and the deep sound of their feet in the fearful onset and of their hard missiles. So, then, they launched their grievous shafts upon one another, and the cry of both armies as they shouted reached to starry heaven; and they met together with a great battle-cry."


The God Hades feared that Poseidon would shake the universe, and flood the infinite underworld with his waters

"Then Zeus Khthonios (Zeus of the Underworld) [Haides] rumbled hearing the noise of the heavenly fray above [as Poseidon and Apollon entered battle when the gods took sides in the war of Dionysos and his army against the Indians]; he feared that the Earthshaker [Poseidon], beating and lashing the solid ground with the earthquake-shock of his waves, might lever out of gear the whole universe with his trident, might move the foundations of the abysm below and show the forbidden sight of earth’s bottom, might burst all the veins of the subterranean channels and pour his water away into the pit of Tartaros, to flood the mouldering gates of the lower world. So great was the din of the gods in conflict, and the trumpets of the underworld added their noise."


Poseidon's trident could cause the primordial of Earth, Gaia, boundless in size to shake

"And Neptune with his trident smote the Earth, which trembling with unwonted throes heaved up the sources of her waters bare; and through her open plains the rapid rivers rushed resistless, onward bearing the waving grain, the budding groves, the houses, sheep and men,—and holy temples, and their sacred urns. The mansions that remained, resisting vast and total ruin, deepening waves concealed and whelmed their tottering turrets in the flood and whirling gulf. And now one vast expanse, the land and sea were mingled in the waste of endless waves—a sea without a shore."


Hades was able to hurl people down to the lowest depth of the boundless primordial Tartarus

"[Oidipous curses himself when he learns that he has killed his father and married his mother :] `Yawn, earth! And do thou [Haides], king of the dark world, ruler of shades, to lowest Tartarus hurl this unnatural interchange ‘twixt brood and stock.'"


Hera, queen of the Gods was able to create an infinite noise, and was implied to be able to sway the universe

"Hera also made an infinite noise resound through the air, to restrain the wrath of Dionysos’ fiery power."


"O royal Hera, of majestic mien, aerial-formed, divine, Zeus' blessed queen, throned in the bosom of cerulean air, the race of mortals is thy constant care. The cooling gales they power alone inspires, which nourish life, which every life desires. Mother of showers and winds, from thee alone, producing all things, mortal life is known: all natures share thy temperament divine, and universal sway alone is thine, with sounding blasts of wind, the swelling sea and rolling rivers roar when shook by thee. Come, blessed Goddess, famed almighty queen, with aspect kind, rejoicing and serene."


Zeus far surpasses these. Zeus is stronger then all the other Gods together

"Consciousness of his omnipotence is admirably illustrated in the famous scene in the Iliad (8.17 ff.) in which Zeus makes this challenge to the Olympians: "Then [you] will see how far I am strongest of all the immortals. Come, you gods, make this endeavor, that you all may learn this. Let down out of the sky a cord of gold; lay hold of it all you who are gods and all who are goddesses, yet not even so can you drag down Zeus from the sky to the ground, not Zeus the high lord of counsel, though you try until you grow weary. Yet whenever I might strongly be minded to pull you, I could drag you up, earth and all and sea and all with you, then fetch the golden rope about the horn of Olympos and make it fast, so that all once more should dangle in mid air. So much stronger am I than the gods, and stronger than mortals" (trans. Richmond Lattimore, The Iliad of Homer [Chicago, 1951])."

The Metamorphosis, of arguable canonicity, depicts Zeus shaking the entire head just by nodding

"When all were plac'd, in seats distinctly known,

And he, their father, had assum'd the throne,
Upon his iv'ry sceptre first he leant,
Then shook his head, that shook the firmament:
Air, Earth, and seas, obey'd th' almighty nod;
And, with a gen'ral fear, confess'd the God.
At length, with indignation, thus he broke His awful silence, and the Pow'rs bespoke."

Zeus' thunder is so strong that he could accidentally melt Earth, Seas, and Heaven, and destroy the universe

"And now his thunder bolts would Jove wide scatter, but he feared the flames, unnumbered, sacred ether might ignite and burn the axle of the universe: and he remembered in the scroll of fate, there is a time appointed when the sea and earth and Heavens shall melt, and fire destroy the universe of mighty labour wrought. Such weapons by the skill of Cyclops forged, for different punishment he laid aside—for straightway he preferred to overwhelm the mortal race beneath deep waves and storms from every raining sky."

Zeus power is strong enough that it's as if Heaven and Earth, the primordials, were clashed together and even Chaos is affected

"Then Zeus no longer held back his might; but straight his heart was filled with fury and he showed forth all his strength. From Heaven and from Olympos he came forthwith, hurling his lightning: the bold flew thick and fast from his strong hand together with thunder and lightning, whirling an awesome flame. The life-giving earth crashed around in burning, and the vast wood crackled loud with fire all about. All the land seethed, and Okeanos' streams and the unfruitful sea. The hot vapour lapped round the Titenes Khthonios (Earthly): flame unspeakable rose to the bright upper air (aither): the flashing glare of the thunder-stone and lightning blinded their eyes for all that there were strong. Astounding heat seized air (khaos): and to see with eyes and to hear the sound with ears it seemed even as if Earth (Gaia) and wide Heaven (Ouranos) above came together; for such a mighty crash would have arisen if Earth (Gaia) were being hurled to ruin, and Heaven (Ouranos) from on high were hurling her down; so great a crash was there while the gods were meeting together in strife. Also the winds brought rumbling earthquake and duststorm, thunder and lightning and the lurid thunderbolt, which are the shafts of great Zeus, and carried the clangour and the warcry into the midst of the two hosts. An horrible uproar of terrible strife arose: mighty deeds were shown and the battle inclined. But until then, they kept at one another and fought continually in cruel war."


Zeus was far and wide the strongest of the Theoi...save for mighty Typhon, who was born to challenge him. Before their battle Hesiod comments that Typhon would become the lord of all mortals and immortals had Zeus not battled him. The two battled in a fight that made the other highest gods and the titans tremble in fear until Zeus proved victorious

Typhoeos would have become lord for mortals and immortals,
had not the father of men and gods keenly attended.
He thundered harsh and strong, and all around, Gaia
resounded awfully, and the wide Ouranos above and
the sea and streams of Okeanos and Gaia's Tartaros.
Beneath the god's immortal feet as he moved `
was quivering great Olympus. Gaia was groaning.
Heat from both of them gripped the violet-like sea,
heat from the thunder and flash and fire from the monster
and thunderbolts and winds and scorching lightning.
All the earth boiled and Ouranos and the sea.
Huge waves raged along the shores round and about,
at the fury of the immortals, and an endless quaking arose.
Hades, lording over the wasted dead men,
and the Titans under Tartaros who around Kronos,
trembled with the endless din and terrible battle-strife.
When Zeus lifted up his might and seized his weapons,
thunder, flash, and gleaming lightning,
he leaped up from Olympus and smote them.
All about he set fire to the dread monster's divine heads.
But when he had subdued him, flogging him with blows,
Typhoeos collapsed, crippled, and monstrous Gaia was groaning.
From the lightning-smote lord, a flame shot forth
in the mountain glens dark and craggy
as he was struck. And monstrous Gaia was burning all over
with an ineffable blast and melted like tin heated
beneath the skill of craftsmen in bellowed crucibles
or iron, which is the strongest of all things,
being subdued in the mountain glens by blazing fire,
melts in the shining earth beneath Hephaestos' hands.
In this way, Gaia was melting from the flame of the blazing fire.
And Zeus in terrible anger threw Typhoeus into wide Tartaros.




The primary pantheon of the Norse were the Aesir. Their men number 12 primary methods, as well as their Chieftan Odin and the addition to their rank, the trickster Loki. They also possess their female counterparts, the 14 Asynjur which "are not less holy and they are not less capable" numbering a total of 28 Deities. 

Loki is the trickster of the Gods, and not a physical powerhouse compared to the others, yet even when chained up, he can shake the whole Earth with his thrashing when he was chained deep underground

And after that Loki hid himself in Franang's waterfall in the guise of a salmon, and there the gods took him. He was bound with the bowels of his son Vali, but his son Narfi was changed to a wolf. Skathi took a poison-snake and fastened it up over Loki's face, and the poison dropped thereon. Sigyn, Loki's wife, sat there and held a shell under the poison, but when the shell was full she bore away the poison, and meanwhile the poison dropped on Loki. Then he struggled so hard that the whole earth shook therewith; and now that is called an earthquake.


The Aesir in general are much more powerful. For reference, Surt the lord of the Fire Jotun wields a sun as his sword


"Surt fares from the south with the scourge of branches,
The sun of the battle-gods shone from his sword;
The crags are sundered, the giant-women sink,
The dead throng Hel-way, and heaven is cloven.
Now comes to Hlin, yet another hurt,
When Othin fares to fight with the wolf,
And Beli's fair slayer seeks out Surt,

For there must fall the joy of Frigg." 

In the final battle of Ragnarok, Freyr of the Aesir shall fight Surtr in an evenly matched battle, and Freyr shall only fall for he lacks his sword

"Freyr shall contend with Surtr, and a hard encounter shall there be between them before Freyr falls: it is to be his death that he lacks that good sword of his, which he gave to Skírnir."


They should also scale to the wolf child of Fenrir Skoll which at the final battle shall consume the Sun

Then said Gangleri: "The sun fares swiftly, and almost as if she were afraid: she could not hasten her course any the more if she feared her destruction." Then Hárr made answer: "It is no marvel that she hastens furiously: close cometh he that seeks her, and she has no escape save to run away." Then said Gangleri: "Who is he that causes her this disquiet?" Hárr replied: "It is two wolves; and he that runs after her is called Skoll; she fears him, and he shall take her. But he that leaps before her is called Hati Hródvitnisson. He is eager to seize the moon; and so it must be."


The general ranks of the Aesir may be much stronger then this, for Surter's emergence at Ragnarok shall shake the World Tree Yggdrasil 

Loud blows Heimdall, the horn is aloft,
In fear quake all who on Hel-roads are.
Yggdrasil shakes, and shiver on high
The ancient limbs, and the giant is loose;
To the head of Mim does Othin give heed,
But the kinsman of Surt shall slay him soon.

Any of the Gods should also be stronger then the 4 Dwarves which hold up the Skies 

"They took his skull also, and made of it the heaven, and set it up over the earth with four corners; and under each corner they set a dwarf: the names of these are East, West, North, and South. 


if you assume they were each lifting 1/4th the atmosphere of the Earth this would lead each to be country level and be consistent with Loki's casual country+ showing of shaking the Earth. If you assume they mean the universe similar to Hercules feat, this would make each Dwarf Multi-Galactic+ and would scale to all the Aesir. 

Strongest of the Aesir in raw might is Mighty Thor

"Then said Gangleri: "What are the names of the other Æsir, or what is their office, or what deeds of renown have they done?" Hárr answered: "Thor is the foremost of them, he that is called Thor of the Æsir, or Öku-Thor; he is strongest of all the gods and men." 

Thor's might is so great that he can accidentally threaten the universe with his might

"It seems obvious that Útgarða-Loki's giants were terrified for the same reason that Hymir was: Þórr's strength is great enough to threaten the very structures which hold the universe together."


While Thor's might is highest, the highest divine power of the Aesir is possessed by their chieftan Odin

Then said Gangleri: "Who are the Æsir, they in whom it behoves men to believe?" Hárr answered: "The divine Æsir are twelve." Then said Jafnhárr: "Not less holy are the Ásynjur, the goddesses, and they are of no less authority." Then said Thridi: "Odin is highest and eldest of the Æsir: he rules all things, and mighty as are the other gods, they all serve him as children obey a father."

Odin, along with his brothers Vili and Ve slew the primordial giant Ymir and formed the whole universe and it's 9 realms from his corpse

Then said Gangleri: "What covenant was between them, or which was the stronger?" And Hárr answered: "The sons of Borr slew Ymir the giant; lo, where he fell there gushed forth so much blood out of his wounds that with it they drowned all the race of the Rime-Giants, save that one, whom giants call Bergelmir, escaped with his household; he went upon his ship,[1] and his wife with him, and they were safe there. And from them are come the races of the Rime-Giants (...)


Then said Gangleri: "What was done then by Borr's sons, if thou believe that they be gods?" Hárr replied: "In this matter there is no little to be said. They took Ymir and bore him into the middle of the Yawning Void, and made of him the earth: of his blood the sea and the waters; the land was made of his flesh, and the crags of his bones; gravel and stones they fashioned from his teeth and his grinders and from those bones that were broken." And Jafnhárr said: "Of the blood, which ran and welled forth freely out of his wounds, they made the sea, when they had formed and made firm the earth together, and laid the sea in a ring round. about her; and it may well seem a hard thing to most men to cross over it." Then said Thridi: "They took his skull also, and made of it the heaven, and set it up over the earth with four corners; and under each corner they set a dwarf: the names of these are East, West, North, and South. Then they took the glowing embers and sparks that burst forth and had been cast out of Múspellheim, and set them in the midst of the Yawning Void, in the heaven, both above and below, to illumine heaven and earth. They assigned places to all fires: to some in heaven, some wandered free under the heavens; nevertheless, to these also they gave a place, and shaped them courses."



In terms of speed, The Olympian Gods generally scale to lightning timing scaling from Ares feat of moving as fast as lightning

"Straight from Olympus down he [Ares] darted, swift and bright as thunderbolt terribly flashing from the mighty hand of Zeus."

This is consistent with Hera traveling from Troy to Olympus in the timespan of a thought, which has been conservatively calced in the 4 to 5 digit mach range

Quick as a thought goes flashing through a man who's traveled the world-"Ah to be there, or there!" As his mind swarms with journeys, fresh desires- so quick in her eager flight flew Noble Hera now and scaling steep Olympus went among the gods, the immortal powers thronging Zeus' halls.

Typhon due to his sheer speed has been interpreted as being as likely relativistic or much faster due to sheer size though this may not be the speed he reacts at, particularly for the lower value.



The Aesir outside of the use of the Bifrost, the Rainbow Bridge used by them to traverse between worlds, are not shown to have very many speed feats, often compared to animals in speed. The fastest speed feat for the Aesir would likely be Thor's speed feat of moving as fast as lightning. There is also Skoll's feat of pursing the Sun which requires high hypersonic speed and which the Aesir should probably scale too. Thor was also able to slay the serpent Jormungandr before dying after 9 steps.

Hither there comes | the son of Hlothyn,
The bright snake gapes | to heaven above;
Against the serpent | goes Othin's son.
In anger smites | the warder of earth,--
Forth from their homes | must all men flee;-
Nine paces fares | the son of Fjorgyn,
And, slain by the serpent, | fearless he sinks.

Jormungandr is a serpent capable of encircling the entire Earth, and likely mhs speed from sheer size though this may not apply to the Aesir for similar reason as Typhon's size.



In terms of abilities I can only really go over their abilities of both sides fairly briefly. Typhon's arsenal for his raw power is actually pretty simply. Like all the Theoi Typhon is an invisible immortal, undying abstraction

In truth at first Khaos (Air) came to be, but next wide-bosomed Gaia (Earth), the ever-sure foundation of all the deathless ones who hold the peaks of snowy Olympos, and dim Tartaros (the Pit) in the depth of the wide-pathed Earth, and Eros (Love), fairest among the deathless gods, who unnerves the limbs and overcomes the mind and wise counsels of all gods and all men within them. From Khaos (Air) came forth Erebos (Darkness) and black Nyx (Night); but of Nyx (Night) were born Aither (Light) and Hemera (Day), whom she conceived and bore from union in love with Erebos. And Gaia (Earth) first bore starry Ouranos (Heaven), equal to herself, to cover her on every side, and to be an ever-sure abiding-place for the blessed gods. And she brought forth long Ourea (Mountains), graceful haunts of the goddess Nymphai who dwell amongst the glens of the hills. She bore also the fruitless deep with his raging swell, Pontos (Sea), without sweet union of love.

But afterwards she [Gaia, Earth] lay with Ouranos (Heaven) and bare deep-swirling Okeanos, Koios and Krios and Hyperion and Iapetos, Theia and Rhea, Themis and Mnemosyne and gold-crowned Phoibe and lovely Tethys. After them was born Kronos the wily."


"The Olympian Lightener [Zeus] called all the deathless gods to great Olympos, and said that whosoever of the gods would fight with him against the Titenes, he would not cast him out from his rights, but each should have the office which he had before amongst the deathless gods; he said, too, that the god who under Kronos had gone without position or privilege should under him be raised to these, according to justice."


"[Zeus] the son of Kronos and the other deathless gods whom rich-haired Rhea bare from union with Kronos, brought them [the stormy Hekatonkheires] up again to the light at Gaia's (Earth's) advising."


"The boundless sea rang terribly around, and the earth crashed loudly: wide Heaven was shaken and groaned, and high Olympos reeled from its foundation under the charge of the undying gods, and a heavy quaking reached dim Tartaros and the deep sound of their feet in the fearful onset and of their hard missiles."

"With a shout he [Ares] cheered the Trojans on to face the foe. They heard, and marvelled at that wondrous cry, not seeing the God's immortal form."

Beyond that Typhon has dragon and serpent heads coming out of him, these can exude fire and lava, along with other elements and ethereal sounds even the Gods can't understand

His hands were strong (?)--corrupt line--
The feet of the powerful god were weariless. From his shoulders
were a hundred head of a dreadful serpent dragon,
licking with dark tongues. The eyes
on the monster's ineffable heads flashed fire beneath their brows
[From all the heads, as he looked, burned fire.]
Voices were in all his dreadful heads,
emitting sounds of all sorts, unutterable by gods.
Sometimes they spoke so gods could comprehend. Sometimes
they emitted the cry of a bull, unchecked in might, proud of voice,
sometimes the cry of a lion having a shameless spirit,
sometimes sounds like puppies, a wonder to hear,
sometimes he hissed, and the lofty mountains rumbled

He can fly, and he seems to be able to cause fear, though this may be due to his gruesome visage and power rather then some form of ability.



The 28 Aesir, as you might guess have a vast array of abilities. Just a quick overview of the most important of them (if you'll pardon the lack of quotes, their is just so many of them)

Odin: Possess a spear called Gungnir which never misses, knows runic magic and the 18 chants which can perform various ability including magic reflection, mind manipulation, healing/resurrection, slowing time, controlling the elements, manipulating fate, and some unknown ultimate ability of the 18th chant. He also created the spirit of humanity, and shaped the world into it's current form which is why he is known as the All-Father. This was not enough for he sacrificed his eye and withstood 9 days of torture so that he could become all-seeing, seeing all events in space and time including Ragnarok. 

Thor: Has a belt that multiplies his strength by 1.5 times, has his mystic hammer Mjolnr which no armor could protect against, he can summon to him at anytime, and never misses. He has transmutation able to turn a giant's toe into a star and was able to casually and repeatedly resurrect his goats. Most impressively he was able to physically wrestle the concept of old age itself, and actually budged her. Controls lightning and oak trees. 

Baldr: Light manipulation, pure of soul, wiser then any, even great Odin

Tyr: God of bravery, who can grant victory in battle for the runic charm for victory involves invoking Tyr. One-handed as he put one hand in Fenrir's mouth so Fenrir would allow himself to be bound. 

Heimdall: The ever vigilant guard of Asgard, able to see Midgard from Asgard, his senses are so great as to hear grass growing and see for hundreds of miles.

Vidar: Loyal Silent Son of Odin, second strongest of the Aesir after Thor. Will avenge the death of his father Odin and slay Fenrir at Ragnarok.

Vali: God of Vengeance, born to avenge Baldr's death, and succeeded in doing so despite being one day old at the time

Ullr: A mysterious god not much is known about but is of very high importance acting as chieftan when Odin is away. Seems to have been a patron of law and justice.

Loki: Trickster God. Invisibility, shapeshifting, fire manpulation, can manipulate matter as he made Sif's hair fall out. Illusion creation.

Eir: Goddess of mercy who can give protection and mercy

Sjofn: Goddess of love, able to imbue the hearts of people with love

Vor: Goddess of wisdom, said to see all





Typhon destroys Mt. Etna where he was kept captive finding himself in Midgard. Roaring in anger Typhon begins a warpath, scaring away all the other gods and spirits, elves and dwarves. Heimdall up in Asgard sees this and alerts the others Asgardians of the threat, causing confusion for Odin who knows now is not the appointed time for Ragnarok. The Asgardians, brave warriors each, prepare for battle with great Typhon. So what happens?

Well first off I have to say I think Typhon probably has a general stat advantage. He has more clear speed feats and he has a bigger universal chain. That said against the sheer number of his enemy, especially if Odin uses his ability to slow something down in time, doesn't mean that Typhon will just rip through everything.

That said the Asgardians would have to be very careful, as outside Thor himself, Typhon's raw power could potentially KO any of them with one-hit, and he would be invisible to all save the wise members of their group (Odin, Baldr, Bragi, Frigg, Vor)

Thor would probably charge in as he usually does and he is the best suited to fighting Typhon as he can best compare to his power and can actually affect him physically. The main problem is he would be essentially fighting blind against the invisible conceptual entity Typhon. 

The main risk of fighting Typhon is his sheer power for the Asgardians but their biggest advantage is their sheer versatility and intelligence advantage. Typhon is basically a big beater and they have a lot more abilities.

The problem here is that the Greek Gods couldn't do really anything to Typhon with Zeus only managing to win via sheer power and his lightning, something the Aesir probably can't match very well unless Mjolnir's power is just that strong which I just don't think he'd be able to do, especially since against he can't see and Thor has been decieved by sight before.

Once advantage the Norse Gods would have however is that Idunn can give them access to the Rainbow Bridge between worlds. Loki's illusions and trickery may be able to trick Typhon into moving towards Helheim or some other remote dimension, or at least close enough that a big smash from Mighty Thor can knock him in. Typhon was initially defeated by being bfr-ed into Tartarus under Mt. Etna. Hypothetically the Norse Gods could do the same, though I don't know if Idunn could create a rainbow bridge large enough to fit Typhon's massive form, and without being able to see him. 

However they do have another option I think would work, that being glepnir, the conceptual chains used to bind Fenrir. As Typhon is also conceptual, this should hypothetically be able to bind him if they can get enough and manage to tie him down with it, the problem being they would need to at least be able to distract him and they'd be hard pressed to do so. I think if Loki distracts Typhon with illusions while Thor and Vidar wrestle and attempt to attack him, it's possible they could work it out so that they could bind Typhon.

However they'd have to basically within Typhon's striking range to do so, and therein lies the general problem of the Aesir fighting Typhon which is that anything they could do would invovle them getting in close where their bodies are at risk. While the Aesir are ageless due to their golden apples, they can die in battle unlike the Theoi. In essence this is a battle of extremely powerful physical beings fighting a concept itself and while they can contend with a concept such as Thor's contending with Old Age, they're at a serious disadvantage since almost everything they can do is something the Greek Gods could do that wouldn't work on Typhon. 

The Aesir's conceptual forms of attack are basically limited to Thor's might and using gleipnir. The best plan in general sense is basically for Thor to wrestle a bit with Typhon while the other Gods try and bind him with the gleipnir. But again the invisibility would put Thor at a disadvantage especially since I don't think his durability is enough to survive lots of blows from Typhon, who was able to quickly remove every sinew in Zeus' body. If you removed half of the sinews in an Asgardian's body they would be dead.

This looks pretty grim however the Asgardians do have one last trick that I think would actually do the job somehow and that is Odin's fate manipulation. It is a common theme in both Greek and Norse mythology that nothing defies fate. The Greeks called them The Fates and the Norse called them the Norns and they ruled everything, concepts included with fate manipulation. Odin might not be as good a fate manipulator as the norns but with his chants he knows how to manipulate fate. I imagine that if Odin did that, fate would play out just so that Typhon would get bound by gleipnir and just so that Thor would last long enough for that to happen.

Overall I think the Asgardians would be able to win due to Odin's wisdom and fate manipulation. Without that it would be incredibly difficult and possible even if I don't think it's very likely. But fate manipulation makes the unlikely, likely.