Thursday, July 30, 2020

Why Sailor Galaxia is my favorite villain


Sailor Galaxia from Sailor Moon, specifically from the Sailor Moom Manga, is my favorite villain in fiction, and one of my favorite characters in general. In this blog I wanted to explore why. Obviously, there will be spoilers for the Sailor Moon Manga. 

When I'm considering how much I like a villain, I find that there are three general overarching reasons why I would like a villain which I call:

1: Threatening. This is a description of how much menace the villain possesses, how much it forces the other characters to respond. In a fighting series this will partially be decided by how powerful the character is but oftentimes it has no bearing on power. A character can be very threatening by being very smart, by having a lot of resources, by having a lot of social influence etc. A villain that is very threatening can have a massive presence on the series and can force the protagonists to rise to their very best. A villain that is very unthreatening is easily overcome by the protagonists and has very little menace.

2: Entertaining. This is a description of how fun it is just to watch the character act, how well the character can hold a scene by himself or herself. This is a general measure of how strong the character's personality is. A very entertaining villain can be as fun to watch or more so then their protagonist counterpart, can easily carry scenes alone, are always memorable and make any scene they are in. A very unentertaining villain is relatively boring or flat and requires other people around them to be entertaining. 

3: Compelling. This is a description most of the time for how human and understandable the character's personality and motivation is. It's a measure of how real the character feels and how well you can understand them. For most villains this is simply a measure of how human they feel. The exception is in things like hard science fiction where the villain is an alien in which case it's more a measure of how well developed and believable the biology and psychology the alien species possesses. Compelling is overall a measure of how real the character feels. A very compelling villain is a villain that you truly understand with a personality you feel could exist and you understand. A very uncompelling villain is a villain without any kind of human motivation like a bug eyed alien or a caricature criminal who steals and murders because they're evil and those are evil acts. 

Not all villains need all 3 categories, but all villains need to be good in at least one category. Generally speaking, a villain who has none of the three categories is bad, a villain who has one of the three is fine, a villain that has two of the three is good, and a villain that has all 3 is a great villain. At least that's how I generally feel about villains. There are villains who do exceed Galaxia in each of the three categories, but Galaxia has by far the highest average of the three to me. To go over them

Threatening:

This one should not be very surprising to anyone who is familiar with Sailor Moon. While each final arc villain of Sailor Moon has some hyping, Galaxia is far and away the most hyping of any Sailor Moon villain with numerous characters warning Usagi of how immense and unparalleled a threat Galaxia has. Galaxia is exceedingly powerful within the world of Sailor Moon to the point that Usagi says that Galaxia in her civilian form has a power in a league beyond any prior enemy. Galaxia possesses the ability to kill anyone in the verse by pointing at them just to compound the fact that Galaxia is ridiculously strong. 

But threat is a lot more then raw power, and Galaxia is not just a raw musclehead, though she is again established as being ridiciulously powerful. Galaxia has according to Kakyuu killed star system after star system with their own Sailor Senshi, which is a way of suggesting to the audience that star systems just like the ones we have been following could not stop this threat so how can ours do so?

Part of the threatening part of Galaxia is neither the protagonists nor the presumptive audience know what she is going to do, as both are informed by the prior arcs of Sailor Moon that Sailor Galaxia does not follow. The past 4 arcs followed a pattern where the villain group would send down their minibosses one at a time to face the Senshi and gather information before the Senshi faced the false big bad (Beryl, Demande, Mistress 9, Zirconia) with the first meeting between them being the middle or late into the arc and a dramatic moment. In contrast during the first act of the fifth arc, when Usagi and Mamoru are having a romantic moment at the airport, suddenly Galaxia teleports in, takes Mamoru's Star Seed and teleport out with no dialogue in a few pages before Usagi can react. The shock of seeing Mamoru suddenly killed in front of her out of nowhere is enough to give Usagi PTSD for the beginning of the fifth arc. 

Later after Sailor Mercury and Sailor Jupiter have had their star seeds stolen by Galaxia's minions, Usagi thinks she was able to save Sailor Mars and Sailor Venus from the same fate only for Galaxia to again just teleport behind them, take their star seeds and teleport before Usagi could react. At the midpoint of the fifth arc, Galaxia goes to Usagi while she is walking in the park, the two in civilian form and attacks her before she realizes who it is, planning to surprise blow up the planet. Later when Usagi is in bed recovering Galaxia attacks in her dreams, threatening to suck her inside Galaxy Cauldron in her mind. It's not just that Galaxia is a massive threat, it's that she is a massive constantly active and proactive threat, torturing and ambushing Usagi from multiple angles. Part of this comes from her motivation, which as revealed late into the arc, is to torture Usagi to force her to release the full power of the Silver Crystal which will then destroy both Chaos and Usagi so Galaxia can have both the Silver and Saphir crystals, gaining full dominion over the universe.

Galaxia just has this massive and overwhelming presence over the final arc of Sailor Moon, due to people constantly talking her up and the way she acts as a constant threat to Sailor Moon in a variety of ever changing methods. Moreover symbolically Galaxia represents the power itself. The thematic contrast between Usagi and Galaxia in the final arc is that Usagi represents the world of localities we live in, the world of nearby transient things while Galaxia represents the absolute, the eternal, the extending into infinity. Her destruction of star system after star system is thus a representation of the vast uncaring infinity consuming localities without end. Usagi's fight against her is the fight for meaning and purpose, the local and human to contend with the absolute forces that transcend all else.

Entertaining:

This one also probably wouldn't be very controversial to someone who had read Sailor Moon. While not quite as bombastic as her 90s anime counterpart, Galaxia is still a character full of flair with her arrogant proclamations of her own greatness, and her massive shows of power like destroying a planet with one finger because someone on it mildly annoyed her.

Part of what makes Galaxia entertaining is how her assault on Usagi is constantly evolving and unpredictable. Your first time reading SM, you wouldn't expect her to kill Mamoru, the male lead and Usagi's love interest in the first act of Stars, nor just suddenly pop in and kill Rei and Minako after Usagi though she saved them, or to approach Usagi in her civilian form to attack her. She is the most proactive villain in the franchise history.

Howeer beyond that, Galaxia has a unique mix of elegance and bombast, her manga self being more biased towards elegance and her anime self towards bombast. She has an air of superiority with all her actions, the way she stands and speaks. Despite the fact that she's making all these grandiose statements like "the time has come to forge a new galaxy, a new history" the narrative treats it with such gravitas and dignity that it feels like everytime she runs her mouth on how big and great something is, it's a really important event.

Galaxia can really hold a scene by herself or when talking to her minions. This is partly due to her immense presence, the fact that everything she decides has an immediate and large effect on the narrative, but also due to the fact that she makes it sound like an even more immense event then that. Like Galaxia could probably make eating breakfast sound like the entire universe is pivoting on the food she is consuming. She's a real larger then life figure.

Also on a seperate note, she's got really good imagery. She's got this royal gold aesthetic that perfectly fits her given her constantly treating of everyone else as dirt, as nothing in comparison to her. It's also a sort of visual clash with Usagi given the Silver Moon aesthetic of Usagi.

Compelling:

So this is where people might actually get confused. "Galaxia....the unstoppable force of destruction, the larger then life queen of the galaxy going on about being chosen by God, how could you possibly find her relatable or realistic in any way?" However in a different sense, Galaxia is one of the most compelling villains I've ever seen. And I know that Galaxia's inner struggle is not unique or anything, there are other villains that have this, but I found Galaxia's to resonate with me on a very strong level.

Galaxia's character and her motivation are revealed slowly throughout the last arc of Sailor Moon. We learn that she grew up on a hellish planet she calls "Trash" and when she awoke as the legendary soldier of destruction, she figured that such a world couldn't possibly be deserving of her and started searching the universe for something of meaning. She rejected world after world, destroying them in the process until Wiseman manipulated her to go to Galaxy Cauldron whereupon she "realized" the universe was fundamentally transient (as opposed to eternal) and imperfect due to Chaos, the primordial evil. Her actions across the fifth arc are an attempt to torture Usagi so she'll release the full power of the Silver Crystal and destroy Chaos, allowing Galaxia to create something worthy of her.

Being a bit personal, I've always felt a bit empty attempting to observe things just as they are, as opposed to trying to find something deeper about them. Ever since I was a kid, I was very interested in the idea of higher forms of being, whether that being in physics the idea of fundamental laws that describe everything, in religion the idea of souls or higher versions of ourselves, or in philosophy with the idea of abstract concepts. I was always incredibly interested in the idea that there is a higher form of being. Regardless of the arguments for or against it being true, I found materialism and relativism to be unsatisifactory. In fiction, I quickly became enamored with the idea of personified versions of that; ghosts (disembodied souls) or anthromorphic concepts like Mother Nature.

On the flip side I found myself left cold and without much strong emotion towards I would say the majority of fiction. You'll find that if you show me most forms of art, I am left fairly neutral because part of my brain is always saying "this isn't real...this is fiction." I only get emotional in fiction when it's attempting to relay a personal message that I found to be true in reality. I was, in my own sense, searching for meaning. And there was something wrong to it.

Maybe I wasn't genociding worlds because of something in them, but in a sense everytime I was rejecting world after world because they felt empty, because they gave me no satisification, was I not acting in the spirit of the soldier of destruction? Galaxia is the symbol of the feeling of emptiness towards the particular. Galaxia is the willing to destroy all the instances of a thing in search of an ideal that it can never possibly be. That is why she is the absolute that destroys all worlds, because all worlds will eventually show some failing and not live up to the otherworldly ideal.

Usagi is the opposite of Galaxia thematically, a complete everygirl who lives in the world of temporary existences, of the instance, of the mundane. There's a moment in their battle where, and this doesn't actually help her strategically at all, that Galaxia insists Usagi acknowledge that her talk of love and friendship are just a facade, that she acknowledge that it's all temporary illusions, using as proof the fact that she killed all Usagi's loved ones and brought them back to fight Usagi. When Usagi rebuffs her, saying that it's because of her loved ones that she is as strong as she is, Galaxia comments angrily to herself "Why is Sailor Moon Chosen?" and maybe it's just me but I hear a tinge of resentment there. Resentment that someone who has lived life depending on others, who is so attached to this temporary world that Galaxia sees as nothing more then fleeting illusions is somehow as powerful as Galaxia herself who has strove and search long and hard.

When Sailor Cosmos reveals the fate of this final battle, that Chaos would survive and return too strong to ever be stopped, destroying everything Usagi cared about permenantly and consigning them to eternal war, she pleads with Usagi to destroy the cauldron now, to let it all end peacefully in cosmic suicide. Usagi however refuses, saying that she would light and darkness, war and peace, that is what makes up this universe she loves and she would fight forever for it. Upon seeing this Galaxia realizes that Usagi truly believes what she is saying, who would continue to love the world no matter how imperfect or wrong it seems, that she is "the soldier that embraces all". Seeing such causes Galaxia's bracelets, symbolizing her loyalty to destruction to break and she reaches for Usagi as she disappears, unable to reach her claiming she finally found something worth protecting, something eternal,

It's still hard for me to recognize the value of the instance, of the particular, of the non-ideal but actually substantiated form of something intuitively, but Sailor Moon has helped me to see it with Galaxia's character arc, to see that it is through the individual, through the imperfect that we come to find the eternal and the perfect. That we come to know them. These bodies of ours and this material world we live in shall end, as will all things in existence, but the love of them that we found, shall continue on eternally. 

Sunday, July 26, 2020

How strong is Sailor Galaxia (Death Battle Combatant)


Hello internet, it's Imperator100, most well known for my contributions to SM vs debating. So Galaxia, my favorite villain, is in Death Battle. My favorite verse, Sailor Moon is in Death Battle. Exciting (mostly because now people have to talk SM.) This will be a blog to give you all the relevant information on Galaxia for the purposes of this fight. 

I am certainly no expert on Beerus, so while I will be making some references to Beerus here and there giving what I hope are helpful comparisons, in this blog, I am going to leave debating who actually wins to those who know more about Beerus and moreso focusing on just giving the information about Sailor Galaxia.

This blog will be seperated into 5 sections describing Galaxia's capacities; power, speed, abilities, weaknesses, and other versions. I'll also at the end add some debunks of common misconceptions. This is not going to be vs battles wiki's style of analysis so don't expect Galaxia to be listed as infinite or immeasurable in speed though by their standards she would be.

Power:

Galaxia in her civilian form is depicted as having a power far above any enemy Usagi had ever fought (1). Galaxia then immediatly proves this is true by destroying the Holy Grail (1) (2) which previously absorbed and was the focus of the energy used by Eternal Sailor Moon to destroy Queen Nehelenia the Arc 4 Final Villain (1) (2) (3) (4) (5). Point being Galaxia is massively above Queen Nehelenia and Arc 4 Eternal Sailor Moon even in her civilian form as is Arc 5 Usagi in civilian form. Queen Nehelenia maintained the dark mirror universe which is a dark parallel universe (1)

Usagi would then transform into Eternal Sailor Moon. Bear in mind that Usagi's first henshin into her Super Sailor Form gave her 10,000x times the power of Pharaoh 90 and the Taioran Crystal at it's peak. (1) The Taioran Crystal heavily diminished is relative to Base Sailor Moon at the time and Pharaoh 90 is much stronger meaning that the Super Sailor Transform multiplies power by over 10,000 times. The multipliers for Base and Eternal Transformation are unknown but it took 10 Super Sailor Senshi level entities using all their power, as well as the power of their power guardians and castles to boost Super Sailor Moon to Eternal Sailor Moon (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) so it's likely at least a 10x boost, which suggests as far as multipliers go, Eternal Sailor Moon should be over 100,000 times the power of Base Sailor Moon. This means Eternal Sailor Moon in Arc 5 should be over 100,000 times that of Base Sailor Moon who is some unknown but likely large amount above civilian form Usagi. 

Because the Silver Crystal's power is determined based on the heart of the user (1) Usagi's power would rise drastically within the arc as well. The amp Galaxia gives to her minions was enough to turn civilian level entities like normal inhabitants of planets Coronis and Mau into being relative to Eternal Sailor Moon's power. Despite this Eternal Sailor Moon was able to fight the Sol Senshi after gaining the same Galacia amp, despite being relative to Eternal Sailor Moon's base normally, meaning Eternal Sailor Moon basically squared the difference in power by the Galactica Sol Senshi fight. This requires a lot of scans to show but the full evidence can be found near the end of the power section of this blog.

Eternal Sailor Moon would then go on to destroy all the Galaxia amped Sol Senshi with a single attack (1) (2), an attack which would do nothing against Sailor Galaxia (1) (2) and Galaxia would go on to block an even stronger attack from a vastly more enraged Eternal Sailor Moon (1) (2).

Now I don't use multipliers as a way of getting to a higher "level" or what have you. I only go into so much detail because I know Dragon Ball Super has a massive power scale above "baseline" universe level and so Beerus being massively above baseline universal does not mean he would be massively more powerful then Galaxia intrinsically. I don't know DBS's power scale nearly well enough to directly compare Galaxia's power scale to Beerus power scale so if someone wanted to do a more direct comparison, I hope this information is detailed enough. The quick summary is that Galaxia>>Galactica Sol Senshi who are to their Normal Versions what their Normal Versions are to civilians and their normal versions are relative to Base Eternal Sailor Moon who was likely well over 100,000 times her civilian self who was a league above the level of a casual universe maintainer like Queen Nehelenia. 

Speed:

Speed is a lot simpler. The Amazon Sailor Senshi are rookie Eternal Sailor Senshi much weaker then Galaxia so Galaxia should scale to them easily. They have moved comparable to the Lambda Power  taking the energy of their Star Seeds (1)(2)(3). The Lambda Power was quickly restoring all the star seeds to their proper places in the cosmos across the universe, and the power of the Silver Crystal is only a part of it. The power of the Silver Crystal has numerous times moved throughout and even to outside the universe instantly (1)(2) which is a speed just exceeding 1 quintillion times the speed of light. 

From quick research Beerus is hundreds of quadrillions of times the speed of light scaling off being 3/4th the speed of Whis which suggests that Galaxia maybe has a slight speed advantage, though not an unsurmountable one (about 3-4 times, well within the normal range of being able to react too). Pardon if I am mistaken on Beerus' speed, this was just what quick searches suggest.

Of course if you use vs battle wiki's speed standard, the light of the silver crystal has traveled across spacetime by raw speed which is immeasurable. It's merely an aspect of the Lambda Power which Eternal Amazons moved comparable too, showing immeasurable speed. 

Abilities:

Galaxia does not have the most versatile range of abilities of SM villains, but that's not to say she's unhax. It's moreso she has one extremely potent ability she is incredibly famous for: the Star Seed steal. The Star Seed Hax is arguably the most broken normal ability in the Sailor Moon Universe, with only two entities knowing it and Galaxia is a far greater user of it then Nehelenia. This is essentially a form of existence erasure hax that can one shot basically everyone in the verse. While users of the Silver Crystal are somewhat resistant to it, removing their star seed can still reduce them to a comatose state, it just doesn't completely kill and erase them immediatly. As both Galaxia and Beerus have a distinctive existence erasure ability and I believe some form of resistance, I believe the nature of the existence erasure and her resistance will become fairly relevant.

Galaxia's existence erasure is the ability granted by the Seikinseki or Sapphire Crystal, her Sailor Crystal. By Pointing towards something, Galaxia takes the Star Seed of that thing, and causes their erasure from existence. (1) All things that carry life have a Star Seed regardless of shape, size or name (1) and Galaxia's Star Seed stealing can work on things as large as planets (1), and implied even stars. Like a lot of things in Sailor Moon, the mechanics of the ability aren't explained heavily to retain a mystic air around it, but Star Seeds seem to refer to one's identity as an entity which is why Sailor Senshi have human star seeds which are their human identities and a Sailor Crystal representing their identies as Sailor Senshi. (1) It is known that even Chaos the conceptual entity had a star seed, called the Chaos Seed (1) suggesting Star Seeds are some form of conceptual existence. This is consistent with how Star Seed steal works on Sailor Saturn, (1) a sailor senshi with control over life and death and who can continue to exist as just a soul (1) or a spirit (1). Taking the star seed of someone also causes them to disappear across time. (1) Sailor Senshi in general possess resistance to existence erasure enough that in the second arc the Senshi were able to resist the Existence Erasure of Death Phantom (1), which was erasing the entire planet Earth (1)(2) and was even affecting the spiritual projection of King Endymion. (1).

So to summarize, Galaxia's Existence Erasure involves removing a conceptual piece of an enemy, their identity, can work on a planetary+, possibly stellar scale, can erase spiritual beings and is superior to an existence erasure that worked on a spiritual planetary scale. I don't know how this compares to Beerus's Hakai but there you go. 

After removing the star seeds of entities, Galaxia can then remake them so that they are loyal to her (1)(2) though this is not particularly helpful in a one on one match. There are a lot of other things Galaxia has been suggested to have done, but it's unclear whether this is a part of the same ability or not. Galaxia is noted to have forced people to serve her whim (1) but this clearly seems to be part of her star seed steal. She also killed all life on a binary planetary system by simply appearing on it, but it's unknown whether this is her sheer power, the power of the Sapphire Crystal, or some completely seperate ability. (1)

Sailor Galaxia has a bunch of other abilities. I'm gonna go over some of the more notable ones here and what potential relevance they may have. Some of them are not of the level where they're particularly notable. For instance the Sailor Senshi henshin can create a blinding light. Considering Beerus was unaffected at the center of a light that spread through the universe, that's unlikely to do anything. Some of Galaxia's abilities that are mote notable:

Dream Manipulation: Sailor Galaxia can enter into the dreams of others to threaten them there. (1)(2) This is unlikely to be particularly helpful as Beerus is probably not going to just fall asleep mid-combat. The only hypothetical advantage I can see from this is if there are neutral passerbys, Galaxia could hypothetically enter one of their dreams to avoid detection and launch a surprise attack,

Teleportation: Teleportation, even across dimensions and with other people is a common power of Sailor Senshi. (1) Sailor Galaxia has been shown to teleport personally (1) and is arguable the best teleporter in the series as she has also been shown to teleport many Sailor Crystals away from her (1) as well as teleport her entire castle. (1)(2) This may be helpful in a fight against Beerus, as teleportation was used by Goku to good effect against Beerus, though Sailor Teleport does not seem to be as precise as Instant Transmission. It also uses Henshin which suggests it may take energy since henshin is an emission of stellar energies. Both of these limitations can be seen in Chapter 3, when Ami and Luna told Usagi to transform in another dimension so Ami could lock onto her henshin energy and teleport there. (1)(2) I think Galaxia's teleportation is probably a fairly helpful ability, she could do things like teleport Beerus in front of his own attack for instance, but it's not something she would be able to spam like Goku did. She also can't use it for dimensional BFR because Dragon Ball characters on the level of Buu or above can perform the vice shout.

Galactica Inflation: One of Galaxia's two attacks. Galaxia creates a dark space around her filled with an electric aura. (1)(2). Depending how their power matches up should be damaging but lacks range.

Galactica Super String: Other of Galaxia's attacks. Galaxia creates a wave of cosmic force that is stronger then her prior attack. (1) There's no way to know how much stronger it is but it's basically the same in most cases, since it lacks range.

Attack Nullification: People with the bracelets worn by Galaxia and her minions can negate attacks with them. (1) Assuming Galaxia and Beerus are somewhat relative in power this would be pretty relevant actually as it would prohibit Beerus from using long ranged attacks. 

Can move through barriers: Galaxia can move through barriers (1)(2) as though they aren't there. This could be really strong or not at all strong depending on if you think this means she could just move through ki barriers. 

Clairvoyance: Galaxia can see distant events. (1) At a long range, this could be fairly helpful seeing her enemy without being seen.

Superhuman Senses: Sailor Senshi can sense energy and it's nature. (1) Galaxia sensed Usagi's intent to go to the center of the galaxy while Galaxia was at the center of the galaxy and Usagi was in the Solar System (1) and there's numerous showing of Sailor Senshi seeing and hearing at a cosmic distance. Lethe and Mnesmonye saw things in the Sol System from the Galaxy Center (1), the Outer Senshi saw the fall of the Moon Kingdom from the edge of the solar system and from outside spacetime (2) and the Amazon Senshi heard Usagi's call for help from Earth when Usagi was at the center of the Galaxy. (1) Other Senshi have also shown on a few occassions minor danger senses and senses of malice. (1)(2) This could be pretty helpful. I'm not sure if Galaxia could sense Beerus' ki since iirc God Ki is harder to sense then normal Ki but having constant awareness of where your opponent is for a cosmic level fight is a fairly helpful thing. If one of them gets blasted into the next star system, Galaxia would probably still be able to be aware of her relative position to Beerus' whereas I don't know if the inverse is true. He could have similar senses though in which case it goes from being an advantage to not being a disadvantage. Her danger/malice sense, if she has it, probably isn't a huge benefit, it might come in handy once or twice but isn't any kind of game-changer. It's certainly not Ultra Instinct or Spider-Sense. Her ability to hear intent from a cosmic distance may allow her to get a general sense of what Beerus' plan is but that's about it, which in fairness would probably be helpful. 

Telepathy: Galaxia can transmit images into people's mind to mess with them. (1) This is basically useless here. Galaxia has no prior knowledge of Beerus plus there's no one afaik that's close enough to Beerus and Beerus's personality isn't such that she can mentally torture him by transmitting images of his loved ones dying into his head like she did to Usagi. That was only somewhat effective on Usagi because Usagi is a sensitive girl and is very close to the Senshi. It's not even a combat tactic really since Galaxia was only doing it as part of her overarching goal to mentally torture Usagi until she released the full power of the Silver Crystal which could be used to destroy Chaos. 

Anti-Magic: Again, pretty useless here. Beerus doesn't use magic.

Stellar Energy: The energy Sailor Senshi uses. It can make energy blasts and shields and for the most part is basically just ki tactically. It's shown some exotic uses like breaking spells and enchanting normal items but nothing that will be hugely helpful in this fight.  

Stellar Protection: This is a metaphysical light that Sailor Senshi have introduced in the third arc that's sort of the blanket explanation for why they resist various haxes. Gonna be focusing on the haxes that Beerus have which my searches suggest are existence erasure, transmutation and sealing. Existence Erasure I already covered above, basically Galaxia scales to Planet+ and Spiritual level Existence Erasure resistance from the Death Phantom fight. Transmutation the best feat I can think of is Queen Metaria converted the moon from a vibrant planetoid of life to the cold rock it currently is (1) yet Sailor Moon survived within her (1). Now granted, this may not be fair, since that was Prime Metaria who converted the moon and Metaria was weakened during the fight with the Senshi. However even the Modern Metaria was at least able to convert the North Pole to stone (1) and Pharoah 90 who they fought later converted a continent sized section of the Earth into a strange black lava (1) so Galaxia should have some fairly strong transmutation resistance. Sealing is interesting though. There's nothing explict saying that Galaxia can resist sealing, though Sailor Moon could seal since the first arc (1) and couldn't beat Galaxia. So Galaxia might have sealing resistance but it's not something I would feel confident in. Stellar Protection gives resistance to a lot of haxes, these are just the ones that seem releavant

Galaxia Power Guardian: Galaxia like all Sailor Senshi should possess a Power Guardian, which is a small fairy that is part of her psyche and can manifest. (1) This can help perform minor functions like acting as another set of eyes to warn her of an incoming threat but they don't have a huge amount they can do. They can give their Senshi a power boost as seen near the end of Arc 4, so if Galaxia and Beerus get into a beam struggle, it might break a tie. But that's about it. 

Enhanced Intelligence: Galaxia's intelligence is very high for SM. She was able to know something intuitively even Sailor Cosmos did not know. (1)(2)(3) Sailor Cosmos has the intellect of the Mercury Crystal which scales being above the Perfect Daimon who had intelligence a hundred times that of a human. (1) Assuming this means an average human, this would be decently superhuman. She is also a skilled tactician who came up with unorthodox plans like having her Animamates go into the sol system undetected on shooting stars. All of Galaxia's plans in the series actually worked save for 2, both of which were stopped by the intervention of Sailor Cosmos, the God Tier of the series from the future Galaxia would have no way of planning for. I don't know how smart Beerus is but Galaxia should be decently superhumanly intelligent by scaling and has decent tactical feats.

Weaknesses:

So what's funny about Galaxia's weaknesses is the thing that is her weakness in universe is rarely ever gonna be relevant fighting against other verses, while the things that would be her actual weaknesses against other verses are things that never come up in the series.

So her weakness in series is that her devotion to her crystal of destruction is what keeps it from killing her and if she ever finds something that is worth protecting, her own crystal will erase her. (1) This would only come up if she was fighting against either someone who actually is just a super pure hearted completely noble character like Superman or Cardcaptor Sakura or Pacifist Frisk, or against some kind of incredibly good manipulator type character who can convince her something is worth protecting, whether they believe it or not. Beerus isn't really either of those archetypes so it doesn't really apply. 

In terms of actual weaknesses, it's less so things she has anti-feats for and more so things she lacks feats for. Most notably I think is stamina. All the villains in SM want the Silver Crystal because of it's endless energy. Usagi is the stamina fighter of her universe. Everyone that relies on a physical body that doesn't use the Silver Crystal has an issue of a lack of stamina feats. The Sailor Senshi have on several occassions run out of energy to the point of fainting after what can only be minutes of combat (1)(2) with Minako exerting herself fighting what basically amounted to 50 zombies (1)(2)(3). The best stamina feats Galaxia might scale to are Sailor V being unsure if she could fight 1.3 billion people (1) and Minako being able to keep fighting after losing 800 cc of blood. (1) Galaxia's stamina is probably somewhere between normal human and peak human, maybe low superhuman. Now granted it's fighting on a cosmic level so maybe it's not comparable but against someone in her cosmic weight class she would need to win fairly quickly or she'll just run out of energy. From what I understand Beerus is the inverse, often prolonging a fight out of enjoyment and getting stronger mid-fight via his anger. As such a prolonged fight would begin to favor him if Galaxia can't win quickly.

Also while Galaxia is super strong, cosmically super strong in fact, her strength is not at all enough to enough to hurt someone at her raw level of power. The best feat she would scale to is standing while inside a Black Hole, which is definitely impressive but basically irrelevant compared to characters who threaten the universe by punching each other. Sailor Senshi have unique gifts as Senshi and Sailor Jupiter's is basically having strength equivalent to her power level. 

On a related note Galaxia doesn't really have any feats for being a particularly skilled fighter. She's got feats for being a tactical general, but actual Sailor Moon fights tend to just be a clash of raw power or using a broken ability to win. She doesn't really have the raw skill of someone like Beerus.

Finally, Galaxia's attack range has never been shown to be that large. She can affect planets and likely star systems but she can't hit things on the other end of the universe like someone like Beerus can. This isn't a huge weakness afaik as she has teleportation that can make it so she can simply teleport within range at any point and she has sensory range to know where to teleport. That said it is something I felt I should note.

Other Versions:

So DB tends to do some odd composite versions at times so this is just a listing of what the Anime and Sera Myu add to Galaxia in case it's wanted. Sera Myu tends to add wacky powers to the characters, for instance Sailor Moon gained the ability to come back to life because the audience cheers for it. However for Galaxia it's more modest.

I'll go over Anime Galaxia first. I'll give a description of the relevant abilities and in parenthesis give the episode number.

Soul-Stealing: In the anime, Star Seeds are treated more like traditional souls. Galaxia can shoot soul-stealing blasts from her bracelets. These can be rapid fired (194) and can chase people around. (178) She took all the star seeds on Earth. (197)

Sealing: Galaxia in the distant past sealed Chaos within her (198)

Remote Teleportation: Galaxia teleported the Starlights into her Throne Room (196)

Darkness/Dark Energy Manipulation: Galaxia's presence darkened the sky. (195) Galaxia is stated to steal the brightness of planets and stars. (182) Creates a dark energy lightning field (195) as well as a whirlwind and a dragon out of dark energy. (200)

Energy-Sensing: Galaxia can sense energy on a galactic scale (189)

Energy Nullification: Nullifies energy (196-197)

Weapons: Galaxia uses an energy whip (197) and a sword (198)

Skill/Stamina: Anime Galaxia has actual stamina/skill feats as she fought Chaos for a long time before she sealed it within herself (198)

Can turn into Chaos Galaxia if her bracelets are destroyed, being possessed by Chaos and growing stronger (200)

Sera Myu, the Stage Musicals are divided into "stages" which are different continuities based on which actresses are playing the senshi. Sailor Galaxia appears in 8 stage musicals. In this first stage she demonstrates along with some of the above:

Galactica Magnum: An attack technique. It's somewhat unclear what it does. (Eien Densetsu Kaiteiban)

Space Manipulation: Trapped Usagi in subspace where she could not transform. (Sailor Stars Kaiteiban)

Implied Time Travel: Captured Neo-Queen Serenity who exists in the future (Sailor Stars Kaiteiban)

Sealing Destruction: Broke the seal on Queen Beryl (Eien Densetsu Kaiteiban)

Conceptual Attacks: Fought Chaos for a long time and harmed it with an attack, harmed Queen Beryl who had prior merged with the concept of hatred (Eien Densetsu Kaiteban)

The Second Stage is fairly similar to First Stage so it's mostly the same abilities with the only additions being

Resurrection: Resurrected the Amazon Trio (Shin Densetsu Kourin) and the Heavenly King. (Starlights-Ryuusei Densetsu) This was already implied in First Stage but this makes it a lot more clear. 

Galaxia also appeared in the Fourth Stage Musical Le Mouvement Final though there is no place to watch this legally due to it's recency. 

The Anime and the Musicals also added a bunch of direct universal feats for Galaxia if wanted like Anime Galaxia being stated to be a threat to the universe (178) and it being stated in Sera Myu that if Galaxia and Eternal Sailor Moon clashed their power might destroy the universe accidentally (numerous musicals but first mentioned in Sailor Stars and it's Kaiteban)

Some Debunks:

Finally this is a section to debunk some common misconceptions

Sailor Galaxia can not be galaxy level:

So this comes from two points. One being Galaxia stating she knew it was impossible for her to win against Chaos when Chaos was the size of the galactic center. (1) However Chaos is a living entity with it's own powers. A character's power is not determined solely by their size. Otherwise Godzilla and his enemies could not be any stronger then large building to city block level and Ego the Living Planet from Marvel would be limited to planet level when he can fight Galactus. Chaos' size is not some kind of limitation on it's power.

The other point this comes from is Galaxia, near the apex of her plan when she is going to soon get the Silver Crystal, says the time has come to create a new galaxy, suggesting she couldn't create a galaxy beforehand. (1) There's a lot of problems with this argument but to over just a few:

A: Japanese doesn't have a normal singular/plural distinction, so what Galaxia was stating would be more properly "The time has come to create new galaxy/galaxies..." Also, Chaos on literally the next page states that the time has come to form a new universe. (1)

B: Galaxia never actually expresses a limitation in this page, she is just stating that the time has come to create something.

C: Far more importantly, Galaxia is not a creator being, she is the Sailor Senshi of Destruction, thematically and literally. All of the planets under Galaxia's control are barren wastelands, similar to Galaxia's home planet. (1) She was seeking the Silver Crystal which creates to gain complete control of the universe. (1)(2) Galaxia probably can't create a planet as well, but no one uses this to argue she is sub-planetary. Galaxia simply does not have creation as part of her powerset, not just for circumstantial lack of evidence but because having creation is against her role in the story. So yeah, her not being able to create something is not evidence of her lack of power. 

Sailor Galaxia would lose because she is arrogant:

Galaxia as a person is, in fact, arrogant, thinking she is the chosen one (1) however unlike a lot of villains that are arrogant, she doesn't allow this to interfere with her tactics. It's not a combat applicable weakness. Galaxia always goes for her strongest move, her star seed steal, first. As mentioned above, all of Galaxia's plans work except for the two that involve intereference by the God Tier of the verse Galaxia would have no way to anticipate. Galaxia is fully aware of Chaos being stronger then her and it being impossible for her to beat it. (1) Galaxia spent the entire arc mentally torturing Usagi so she would release her full power and kill Chaos. (1)(2

VS battles wiki claims Galaxia has arrogance and complacency as weaknesses because Chaos was manipulating her into doing what it wanted planning to betray her the entire team. However

A: I don't know where they are getting this. Galaxia was planning to betray Chaos and Chaos merely retailiated after it became aware of that.
B: Even taking that at face, what was Galaxia supposed to do about it? Her plan should have worked regardless and would have if Sailor Cosmos hadn't stopped Galaxia from pushing Usagi into the Galaxy Cauldron

Galaxia is absolutely not complacent. She is constantly getting directly involved with her plans which is partially why they have such a high success rating. When Usagi destroyed Lead Crow fast enough that Lead Crow couldn't take Mars and Venus Sailor Crystals, Galaxia just popped in and took them herself. (1)(2)

Galaxia is arrogant in the same way that Darkseid is arrogant. They are arrogant in their personality, and narratively speaking in their goals, but they don't have arrogance as a weakness because it simply doesn't effect their decision making process.

Galaxia wins because she has powerful regen and immortality

So this is based on two points. The easier of these to debunk is Galaxia stating that Senshi can endlessly return so long as their Star Seeds remain. (1) This is completely removing the context of the scene, however. Galaxia just made Usagi fight her brainwashed friends and is taunting her with how she can endlessly revive Usagi's friends and force them to fight. (1)(2) Galaxia is using this as a way to rebuke Usagi's philosphy by saying that things like love and friendship are only temporary illusions and moveover to mentally torture Usagi so she will get closer to releasing the full power of the Silver Crystal. There'd be no reason for Galaxia to torture Usagi with a simple fact about the supposed general regenerative propery of Sailor Senshi. Galaxia is just talking about her own ability to recreate the bodies of those she's taken the star seeds off.

The other is a bit harder to get into. Basically it's mentioned that if Hotaru awoke as a Sailor Senshi, her power as a Sailor Senshi will regenerate her (1) and later in the arc after Hotaru awakens it regenerates her body and soul. Now while Hotaru does have pretty strong regeneration, I personally thought it was pretty clear this was specifically an ability of Hotaru as the Sailor Senshi presiding over life and death. (1) This is why she has healing even in her civilian form (1) and her attacks as a Senshi are focused around death manipulation. There's no real evidence suggesting that this regen applies to the rest of the Senshi and Senshi have been threatened by completely normal if extremely powerful physical attacks including, for instance, really powerful explosions. (1)

Galaxia has general purpose Power Nullification:

A claim that's gone around is that Galaxia and her minions have power nullification because Tin Nyanko launched an energy blast that took away the Mautians ability to speak in their cat forms. (1)(2) Howewer the text suggests this was related to the damage to the crescent moons on their foreheads. These markings on their foreheads are very important to the Mautions as shown in Act 1. Luna had her crescent moon covered by a bandage and could not use her locator abilities or speak. (1) As such it was likely more a matter of the Mautians biology rather then some ability of Galaxia and her Animamates that nobody ever addresses and never comes up in any other situation.

Saturday, July 25, 2020

Quick Blight (DC) Respect Thread


Blight is one of the strongest foes of the Justice League Dark and I felt like making a quick respect thread for him.

Blight is the conceptual form of mankind's shadow, naturally existing in the collective unconcious of mankind. He is every vile thought and shameful act. He is a conceptual form of being that manifests as a mental and physical form, the physical form being a human he possessed. Terror, desperation and madness also empower Blight suggesting that these are also a part of him. His physical body was able to hold up against Constantine and Nightmare Nurse's Blackmare Forms which had "almost nuclear power" although it is impossible to kill Blight conventionally, as any dark thought to kill him would itself be him. So long as man holds a single dark thought, Blight can not be killed. His mental body which he can project onto the physical plane appears as a shadowy serpent. This can change size and in one instance appeared planetary sized consistent with it being stated that he was covering the Earth. He is also noted as appearing in all of humanity's psyche at once, and appears as a small shadowy snake. This form can turn into a dragon which breathes fire and in the mental plane appeared as a hydra whose heads fittingly regenerated into 2 more.

Blight passively emanates an energy that blocked out planetary psychic senses and which weakened the metaphysical light of humanity and their magic. Blight's presence passively causes corruption, magnifying peoples' sins and their dark behaviors and tendencies (this causes him to grow stronger over time) and can cause those sins to manifest in the physical world as little demons. Blight can consume people into the collective unconcious with only those with many psychic defenses keeping from having their soul consumed and turned into a demon. His raw power was enough to cause an eternal eclipse, which is casually in the low planetary range. However his strongest power is his absorption, as he quickly threatened to absorb not only all negative thoughts used against him but threatened to quickly absorb the entire material plane, all of physical existence into his metaphysical being, unitied the physical and metaphysical realms. He was confirmed to be a threat to likely by using the vast dormant psychic power of humanity in the collective unconcious.

Blight was only beaten briefly by Pandora using the light of humanity and later by being sealed back into the collective unconcious by the embodied spirit of redemption. This brings up a point I want to debunk. Some people are claiming Blight is relative or even superior to the Presence as he claimed the Presence was scared of him and could not destroy him. Now I don't know why villain statements are automatically treated as evidence nowadays given their tendency to have an exaggerated sense of self, but this is blatantly not true. The Presence blatantly allows Blight's existence for the sake of the greater good. The Phantom Stranger says The Presence could drive out Blight and all evil out from the world with a word but simply allows it and most damningly Blight is eventually defeated by being sealed away by the embodied spirit of redemption, the will of The Presence given form. The Presence's character is that he wants to create something with free will and so he keeps from interfering even if it causes his creation to sometimes do evil.



Summary:
+At least Town level physical strength with his avatar (Held back briefly the two Blackmare Forms of Constantine and Nightmare Nurse)
+At least low planetary power (caused an eternal eclipse), much higher via manipulating the uncouncious of humanity
+Conceptual existence, can battle on the physical and mental planes with mental projections (Shadowy Serpent) and physical possession
+Will exist so long as man has a single dark thought
+At least hypersonic speed (Scales above DC Street Tiers), full extent unknown
+Passively nullifies psychic senses and magic
+Corruption (presence magnifies darkness in beings)
+Summoning (Can summon the sins of people as demons)
+Can consume people into the collective uncouncious
+Grows stronger over time
+Skilled manipulator
+Thoughts to kill him only become part of him
+Infinite Absorption (Was going to absorb the material plane), likely higher (was a threat to creation)
-Being sealed back into the collective uncouncious by a light based force.

Thursday, July 23, 2020

Good Omens-verse Strategy Guide


How to be OP in the Good Omens-verse

Local Scale Threat:

On Earth there exists the most peculiar race of humanity, the midway point of Heaven and Hell. Most humans of the Good Omens-verse are generally normal in capabilities, however there are some pecularities even amoung them.

Good Omens Earth contains witches, mystically aligned women who are trained to a low degree of the mystical arts including aura-reading and low level telepathy. The greatest of these was the famed Agnes Nutter, a witch who could see hundreds of years in the future with complete precision and who is honestly the biggest threat of this tier, as she can possibly foretell any of her opponent's moves. Her descendants (whom she knew all the names off) a few hundred years later still use her predictions as they foretell everything important currently happening in the modern day.

The Good Omens-verse also contains numerous secret socities and conspiracies including the witchfinders, a society dedicated to finding witches, although much like the witches themselves they've sort of gone downhill over the past few hundred years. There's also government conspiracies and well as Satanic orders of nuns.

The Earth is also home to Newton Pulsifier, a seemingly ordinary man whose presence causes technology to start to fail around him (which is unfortunate for a computer repairman like him). Everything he tries to fix or build doesn't work, except when he tried to build a joke device that did nothing which ended up picking up radio Moscow. It also contains the International Express Man, the greatest delivery man in the entire world. Charged with delivering the 4 badges of office to the four horsemen of the apocalypse, he got through an active bloody civil war zone to give War her sword, and after doing the first 3 of them, killed himself so he could hand deliver Death's badge of office to Death personally.

So how to counter this tier? Well the biggest problem is clearly the witches fortune telling. To counter the tier, one needs a being woh is normal human physically who can beat essentially Modern Earth while all of their actions are known. You also can't reliably rely on technology due ot Newton. 

In terms of weaknesses, the tier can be a bit prone to manipulation as the people act a bit goofy since Good Omens is a comedic novel. Also the witches and witchfinders have really gone downhill, and assuming the character is just fighting the modern Good Omens verse, so long as one can steal Agnes Nutter's book of prophecies which the witches have lost once, it's mostly just fighting Modern Earth.

Counting fortune telling is difficult when it's on this level if you assume it applies to the invading force and they don't just appear on the verse, however this does lead to what I think is the best counter to this ability which is simply exiting the verse and returning, which I believe my first counter can do in an unconventional way, that being


Hiro Nakamura from Heroes

Hiro is a normal human physically but has control over space and time, giving him the ability to time stop, teleport, and time travel. While overuse of this ability gives him a nosebleed and headache, he can use it post-mastery of it 47 times in one day. 

Hiro could simply time travel back before Agnes Nutter's time before she could predict it and steal her book right after her execution. In a fight against modern forces he could simply stop time to get away or fight.

While I think this would be a pretty solid counter and probably win, there's some ambiguity as to whether Agnes intructions would be able to prevent Hiro's birth by warning her descendants. Neither Agnes nor Hiro has acausality so it's unclear what would happen. For a character this would not work against you could use


Bunny Girl Karen from a Simple Monitoring

Karen is normal human level physically, but has a single ability, that being an extreme form of supernatural luck, to the point that in a fight weapons aimed at her spontatenously break. This power known as the Unbeatable Emperor is so strong that if two people are fighting each other with it, even if they wielded machine guns or rocket missles they will still find it impossible to harm each other.

The Unbeatable Emperor means that Bunny Girl Karen would be likely invulnerable in any direct fight and knowing every single move she makes will not stop her, as any sort of counter knowing what she will do, will be failed to an unlucky failure. You might think propecy would hard counter this, as the witches can simply stop her from getting it before she gets it. However the Unbeatable Emperor is an acausal ability that can not be stopped from being acquired, as shown when the main character undid the event that gave him and Karen the ability and yet they still possessed it.

The only possibly problems she might have is I don't know if there is a limit to the sheer probability it can go too. It is stated the Unbeatable Emperor will always win a one in a million gamble, or a one in a billion and can protect against machine gun fire, but I don't know if it can counter say an entire army attacking oneself. For a counter I think is the ideal counter, I would suggest


Mary Poppins from the film of the same name

Mary first off, has a general resistance to magic being immune to a spell that had affected that put the children she was looking after into a laughing fit. It's possible she would be immune to having her future foretold, as the witches abilities have been put off by lesser things like Anathema being unable to read Adam's aura because it was so massive. However regardless of not Mary can and has entered and exited pocket dimensions meaning she could simply pop out at any time, Agnes' prophecies not foreseeing something from another dimension. It would also be somewhat in character I think for Agnes to not even try to foretell how to beat another witch, not viewing her as a threat.

The Good Omens world may have a lot of secret conspiracies but Mary could know of them all at any time by her communication and friendship with the animals. Such conspiracies would not notice a bird at the window or a mouse on the floor. She also has a superhuman charisma and ability to manipulate people such as convincing Mr. Banks to accept her as nanny despite lacking any of his criteria. It's likely she could just manipulate her way around the verse into getting what she wants.

Even if someone tried to threaten her she has wind manipulation, transmutation, space manipulation and telekinesis (as well as sleep inducement). It would be pretty easy to keep any aggressor from attacking her and she could use such abilities in conjunction to take Agnes book should she feel it would be any kind of threat before storing it in another dimension with her carpetbag.

Overall not only would she be able to stop any kind of threat, but she could do it without ever calling attention to the fact that she was doing it.

City to Planet Scale Threat:

The main inhabitants of the Good Omens verse are the Angels and demons. Naturally incorporeal, angels and demons take human-like forms to interact with Earth and it's people. Angels reside in Heaven and demons in Hell, both of which are a large corporate building, Heaven being the above ground levels and Hell being the underground levels. The most notable problem of this tier is actually the numbers of both sides. It's strongly implied that Heaven contains infinite angels and Hell contains infinite demons meaning that any counter has to be able to defeat infinite enemies.

Angels and demons are naturally non-corporeal, likely spiritual beings. They can take however any size, down to subatomic they choose, such that any number of demons could dance on the head of a pin. Angels could hypothetically as well but angels do not dance save for Aziraphale who is quite fond of the Gavotte. Angels and demons can also take any shape or type of composition they choose. They are unbound by the laws of physics and can create matter/energy from nothing, ignore gravity at will or travel through space and dimensions at will giving teleportation and inter-dimensional travel. 

The two sides are all incredibly skilled warriors and spies, spending the millennia in a cold war for influence of the material plane. It is a common theme that outside the main characters Aziraphale and Crowley, an angel and a demon that love humanity from their long exposure to them, the angels and demons do not care about humanity and merely are doing everything they can to win against the other side. Indeed the central plot revolves around Aziraphale and Crowley's odd friendship and alliance to stop Armageddon and save humanity against the will of both Heaven and Hell.

Angels and demons are incredibly powerful. If one takes the statement that they can be any size, then they should be able to grow to the size of the universe, although the Good Omens universe is much smaller then ours. Despite this it is large enough to contain nebula and would take generations to cross in a starship. This is consistent with Crowley noted to have created a nebula, a stellar collection larger then a star system. As such angels and demons should be high end star system level. In terms of speed, they can change into the electricity running through telephone wires at a signifigant fraction of the speed of light and in this form Crowley was able to react to outside events while moving at relativistic speeds, showing they should have relativistic reactions. It's arguable that by being unbound by the laws of physics they should be able to travel faster then light though such is unconfirmed.

Angels and demons also show general purpose reality-warping called "miracles". This can be used to for transmutation like turning guns into harmless water pistols or changing the paintball guns at a corporate paintball game into real guns. It can also be used for probability manipulation like making sure that all the bullets used in a corporate game of paintball where all the paintball guns were turned into real guns don't hurt anybody. It can create matter-energy from nothing or manipulate the minds of humans, putting corrupting dark thoughts in them or giving them peace of mind and happy memories. Aziraphale also created ligh and when he had his physical body destroyed was able to possesses normal people as well as speak with the dead. Crowley also demonstrated the ability to force things to defy reality by sheer willpower such as driving his car through a fire and despite the fire clearly burning away the car and it's vital parts, making it keep going through sheer willpower. Crowley was also able to temporarily beat a higher ranking demon Hastur by using a form of sealing and technological manipulation, absorbing him into a telephone and disconnecting it. 

Demons and angels can also regenerate from having their physical bodies destroyed, though this takes time and have otherwordly true forms. They also have supernatural senses that can sense the presence of particularly powerful entities on a planetary range though it's precision is lacking.

As you might be able to tell this is pretty insane to counter. It's a battle against infinite solar system creating, reality-warping, probability manipulating beings immune to the laws of physics, all of whom can regen from total physical destruction.

In terms of weaknesses, the two forces do have an explict weakness. Hellfire will permenantly destroy an angel and holy water will permenantly destroy a demon, which is why both sides use the material as the method for execution of their own. However I think much more useful is the implict weakness.

Outside Aziraphale and Crowley who have adopted some humanity due to massive exposure, angels and demons lack what makes humanity great; human creativity and imagination. They are potrayed as two massive unpleasent bureaucracies who can not adapt or think freely, acting only to follow the will of God or to rebel against him. Humans, the strange mixtures of heavenly and hellish, have free will and the ability to think freely. Demons might have a superhuman ability to tempt and corrupt/manipulation and angels might have a superhuman purity and resistance to temptation but more conventional manipulation might work well, or even just something that requires out of the box thinking. If one adopts a strategy that perfectly counters the stagnant strategies of the angels and demons, you lower the potential threats from infinity to 2; Aziraphale and Crowley.

Angels and demons also have another weakness that can be pretty big if hard to use. When taking human form, their actual bodies are no stronger then normal humans. Bullets will return them to being non-corporeal and force them to regen and they can neither move nor use physical strength any greater then a normal human's. It's hard to use this well because they can simply make themselves immune to the kinetic energy of a bullet or alter the probability so it doesn't hit them if they have any time to think. As such the best way to fight them is some kind of passive damage aura, something that can hurt anything that tries to approach so that their bodies are destroyed before they can act and use their incredible powers. 

This brings me to my first counter


Burning Heisei Godzilla from Godzilla

Heisei Godzilla was so tough that a single one of it's cells is theorized to have survived a black hole and mutated into Space Godzilla. While in the film this is just a theory, it is suggested to at least have credibility and is suggested to be true by Word of God statements, which would give Heisei Godzilla enough durability and power to compare to the angels and demons. He was also able to react to Space Godzilla's crystal projectiles who flew from Deep Space to Earth at over 4 times lightspeed showing Burning Godzilla would be fast enough to react to the angels and demons.

Burning Godzilla is infamous for emanating massive heat and radiation passively, which would easily be enough to burn away any angel/demon human forms that came close to him before they could react, let alone his ability to quick draw with his atomic sense.

Even if he takes some damage he has a massive endurance and regen that would mean without hax the angels and demons would struggle to kill him, and most of them would struggle to think creativily to beat him. Even then he resists matter manipulation enough to break down his cells and mind manipulation suggesting that some commonly used haxes they would use first would fail to effect him.

I could only see Burning Godzilla losing after a signifigant time or if Aziraphale or Crowley do something more tricksy with their powers. For a counter that would be a bit more subtle threat that could get around this, you could use


Horus Lupercal from Warhammer 40K

Horus even before the betrayal was one of the strongest Primachs, all of whom can fight star system level threats on numerous ocassions. Post-betrayal, he was even stronger able to one-shot the other Primarchs, showing he should be comparable if not outright superior to the angels and demons in raw power. He should be at least relative to his brother Sanguinus in reactions who could see plasma bolts and lightspeed lasters move in slow motion, showing enough reaction time to be superior again to the angels and demons.

Horus would be able to manipulate the angels or demons as primarchs are built to be the greatest military commanders of all time, with Horus being exceedingly intelligent in particular, with the Emperor originally calling him the greatest general in the galaxy. The devious mind of the Horus Heresy, he could likely manipulate his way into a position of power in the angelic and demonic hierarchies.

Beyond this Horus has a passive aura that could push down to their knees even other Primarchs, easily enough to crush a human form angel or demon. Horus could easily fight them directly as well as the shields of the primarchs are able to protect against the reality-bending powers of the warp which can do everything the miracles can do, hitting on all planes of reality. Horus himself can attack on all planes of reality and could permenantly destroy angels or demons and he could pursue them through dimensions with his own dimensional travel.

There's almost nothing in the tier can beat him unless the probability manipulation can effect him in a particularly bad way. However there's one character I believe would do even better, turning the verse against itself, that being


Horseshoe Centrist from Centricide

Horseshoe Centrist is a conceptual entity, the personification of the political philosophy that two extremes will become functionally the same thing. In centricide, Horseshoe Centrist casually defeated the personifications of Authoritarian Left and Authoritatian Right at once, gaining power from the fact that two opposing idealogies were acting together, proving his point.

There's a recurring concept in Good Omens where the Angels and the Demons act functionally identical despite their protestations. For instance it is said that at the final battle, the lines of angels and demons extended into infinity and if you looked really closely you could almost tell the difference between the two.

As form of conceptual existence, the angels and demons would have to defeat his concept to beat him, but the problem is that in mirroring each other so perfectly, Horseshoe Centrist would gain infinite power and could only be beaten if the angels and demons stopped mirroring each other, going against their very nature. Lacking creativity, they would be unable to do this. Horseshoe Centrist's only weakness is fighting something that is paradoxically both extremes at once, a functional example denying his criticism as shown when Authoritarian Left and Authoritarian Right summoned National Bolshevism who is at once far left and far right to beat him. However the only thing that is both paradoxically of Heaven and Hell in Good Omens are humans and even if say Aziraphale gave a human the sword of Eden again to try and fight Horseshoe Centrist, he has one more ability.

While Horsehoe Centrist carries a gun in one hand,  he carries a magnet in the other, resembling a horseshow giving him telekinesis. This would allow him to snatch any weapon that could hit conceptuals that could be given to a human or just telekinetically smash them around. Horseshoe Centrist would be functionally immortal in this tier, almost the embodiment of their biggest thematic weakness.

Universal Scale Threat:

There are forces in the Good Omens universe that the angels and demons have no control over and adapt their plans according to their actions.

This includes the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse, bringer of the end times, conceptual entities including their leader the strongest Death. Death is confirmed to be the same as the one from Discworld and the shadow of all creation. This version of Death has casual universal showings and an absolutely insane speed feat. When the quantum interpretation of Schrondinger's Cat was discovered, Death proceeded to adapt and kill every alternate version of every single person that did not come to be. This would be neccesarily ludicriously MFTL+ and most likely infinite in speed, although speed is fairly meaningless for these time traveling acausal and pseudo-omnipresent entities.

Death also possesses numerous abilities including broken hax like abstract and metafictional forms of attacks, reality-warping and physics-warping, time travel, acausality, dimensional bfr, and so forth. 

This tier also includes the unknowing antichrist Adam Young, an 11-year old kid with universal reality-warping without knowing it who shapes the world according to his childish superstitions. By the strange unknownable will of God, Adam Young was raised by a completely normal human couple and so came to embody the strength of humanity, human creativity. He gave his 3 childhood friends the power to defeat the three lesser horsemen of the apocalypse, though it's left ambigious who was stronger between him and Death.

Stronger then Adam was his Hellish father Satan. Satan was so strong that Aziraphale and Crowley though even with Adam they had no chance against him, which makes some degree of sense as Adam's power comes from being his demonic lineage. 

Explictly stronger then all this is the God of the Good Omens universe. A higher form of being whose nature and plan are ineffable and incomprehensible to any of the beings, all of whom, as well as the fate of the entire Good Omens universe is controlled by God showing clear scaling vastly beyond as well as at least star system scale fate manipulation. Famously God does not play dice with the universe instead playing an obscure complex game of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules and who smiles all the time.

Thus the capacities of the tier are universal+ power, universal reality warping, abstract manipulation, metafictional attacks, spacetime manipulation on a universal scale, solar system scale fate manipulation and conceptual forms of being.

In terms of weaknesses, there aren't much. Death and Adam Young both have weaknesses, but Satan and especially God have no explict weaknesses. However there are a few things I can see. It's not made explictly clear that belief has reality-warping powers like in Discworld for instance, but it is implied to be the case. Also the biggest threat, God, is implied to be rather fond of humanity, and so a form of counter that might be strong are characters that are represensatives of humanity's best, like Adam himself. Characters who would have the power of everyone's belief in them, and who God would not be motivated to fight particularly.

The other thing I notice is that most of the powerful entities, unlike the angels and demons, are not really fighters and so lack much fighting skill or fighting spirit. As such a character who is a highly skilled fighter might have a strong advantage. With that in mind, I'd like to give my first counter to the tier, that being


Sora from Kingdom Hearts

Sora as of KH3 has unlocked the power of the heart which can reset the universe via the power of waking and which is described as being an endless power stronger then the universe threatening enemies in KH3. 

The power of the heart connects Sora to his friends which allowed him to come back from even a conceptual attack, as in Kingdom Hearts 3 the darkness ripped him apart on a conceptual level sending him to the final world to vanish, before he pierced himself together with the power of waking. This means he should actually be able to take normal attacks from Death. His power is also uniquely suited to fighting most of the verse. He's a vastly more skilled and experienced fighter becoming keyblade master skilled in only a year's time, with a wide variety of abilities. 

While it may seem like he wouldn't be able to affect them, Sora regularly beats Nobodies and causes them to fade from existence, showing he would even have the ability to destroy Death the shadow of creation. He can counter fate manipulation with his own, as Aqua did casting a spell to bring Kairi to the light of another. The keyblade can also not only seal but unseal, which is in fact it's main purpose, being the ultimate key. Thus while he could fight against Death's version of bfr/sealing, he could seal the verse's fighters with his own sealing they haven't shown resistance too.

Sora also possess manipulation not just of light and darkness of the hearts, but also of causality since he was able to rewrite the prophecy of darkness prevaling and the light ending affecting Xenahort across time showing it was effect the entire timeline which is greater then even Good Omens God's fate manipulation. 

That said Sora may struggle against the raw power of Good Omens God, as he would be moreso rivaling the raw power of Death or Adam Young as opposed to a being that fodderizes them and also lacks speed. While I still he would win via hax and skill as well as general nature, for a counter that can also match the verse's power you could use


Andromeda Shun from Saint Seiya

Even back during the Sanctuary Arc, Seiya pushing his cosmo to the max was able to create a Big Bang. All Gold Saints can reach this level with the high tiers capable of doing so casually. Andromeda Shun with his ultimate power should be comparable in power, comparable to Gods. A Spectre with the blood of a god was strong enough to withstand an attack from all 12 gold saints, yet Shun was able to fight gods with his god cloth. His cosmo is also likely to be able to amped up to the speed of Cronos' power which could quickly encompass the entire multiverse, showing he would be able to keep up with speed.

Shun uses cosmo, the energy of the universe which can affect even conceptual forms of being and because he has awoken eithin him the 7th sense, he can perform miracles, altering probability, showing he could fight against the probability manipulation of the verse. He could also fight against Death as he has awoken the 8th sense which allows one control over one's own cycle of life and death and resists death manipualtion. While Death would normally be very strong in SS, Shun has the blood of the gods known as ichor, on his armor which grants resistance to causality manipulation as the titans tried to manipulate the causality of the universe against the saints which failed against the blood of the gods.

The blood of the gods in general gives resistance to a massive number of abilities to the point of being considered invulnerable to anything below the SS Gods, suggesting Shun could resist most of the abilities of this tier. He's also a much more skilled fighter and his chains will automatically react to protect him from danger so he couldn't be surprised by some extremely long range attack. Shun is also a completely noble soul and God would not want to fight him.

That said Shun's own natural disdain for fighting might stop him and he is vulnerable to being BFR-ed as he does not possess natural inter-dimensional travel or time travel. There's one character I thought would be the perfect counter to the verse, that being 


Superman from DC Comics

Superman survived the Big Bang which created the DC Universe, much larger then our universe, destroyed a structure that withstood the same Big Bang and fought against universal warpers like Blackstarr. He's also fast enough to burst the bounds of infinity and is one of the few characters that can reach the speedforce, showing he can travel through time, dimensions and conceptual barriers via raw speed.

Superman is essentially the tank of the Justice League, not only incredibly durable but incredibly resistant to abilities to the point that Blackstarr's universal reality-warping controlling the DC universe in all aspects could not affect the Kryptonians. Both Time Trapper and Dr. Manhattan, cosmic beings and reality-warpers stronger then Good Omens God could not erase Superman. Superman has also resisted death manipulation that affected whole universes.

Superman has also showed the ability to affect concepts, affecting True Darkseid and canceling him out by matching the vibrations of the strings making him up, as well as recently causing damage to the platonic archetypal realm of the Phantom Zone. This suggests he should be able to affect the god tiers of Good Omens fine.

He's an incredibly skilled fighter, specifically skilled in torquasm vo and torquasm rao which would allow him to draw any of the entities of the verse into a mental battleground. He's also actually more intelligent then anyone there. The most impressive intelligence feats for the verse is Death seeing the Discworld universe as a multi-sided jewel and God being universally omniscience, both of which are moreso awareness feats. Superman has rebuilt the Miracle Machine, a machine that can remake the multiverse, from memory.

Superman is also an embodiment of all that is good about humanity, and the culmination of the hopes and wishes of people, suggesting that in a world formed of human beliefs, he would be given a supreme absolute power. Superman would be a Top Tier in power, able to resist or recover from almost every notable ability or hax on the verse, able to ignore all defensive haxes, and would be able to use the very cosmology of the verse to bolster his abilities.






And that's how to be OP in Good Omens.