Sunday, November 6, 2022

DC Feats I use for scaling

DC Comics is a complicated universe for scaling purposes, so I wanted to quickly put together the feats I mostly commonly use for scaling each tier. This is also roughly how I'd tier them. These are obviously not all these feats, and not even all the relevant feats since it doesn't really have any of the internal scaling within the tiers, this is just a list of feats for in case you want to know where a various DC character would scale featwise.

As a quick aside, I'd like to talk about an idea I use and really like where you give different estimates on the character's power. When I say lowballing, I mean I think the character is definitely at least here, they just have very obvious unambiguous feats for this position. When I said midballing, that means I think the character is probably at least here. They have feats that make most sense to be this position, but there's a little bit of reasonable argumentation against it for whatever reason. When I say highballing, I'm saying the character is possibly here, that it's not very solid but if you give them the benefit of the doubt they'd be here. So if I use those terms in this, that's what I mean.


Tier 15: Microscopic Tier

This is the tier for the DC Characters, mostly from the Atom comics, which are tiny and therefore pretty incomparable physically to anyone else. I don't know of any particularly impressive feats for this tier. I know that the Atom can retain his normal weight at micoscropic size if wanted, making him superdense, though I don't know if there's any feat of another microscopic entity moving his human body weight at that size.


Tier 14: Civilian Tier

This is the tier for the Civilian Characters in DC. By definition these are meant to represent people without significant feats so "scaling" is difficult. While normal humans in some verses do have feats, unless it happens to literally everyone, scaling becomes difficult. Of course if you wanted to you could scale all of DC humanity to island level since while they died, their bodies weren't damaged by a planetary explosion but I wouldn't accept that even as a highball. I know that Earth-2 Lois Lane has a feat where she pulls unlocks a door, opens it, pulls herself a kid in, and closes it before  an angry dog mid-lunge can get her, and I am pretty sure though I can't recall where it is that Silver Age Jimmy Olsen was able to briefly evade a gorilla charging for him, so maybe normal DC humans are faster than real life humans but I'm unsure about it. In general there's some more cartoon-y feats in really early DC Comics like a bartender has a chair smashed over his head and just responds "ow-w-w" Once again though scaling anyone in this tier to anyone is hard because pretty much by definition these characters don't fight anyone. I would lowball these characters as human level and highball them as superhuman in speed and power.


Tier 13: Criminals/Police Tier

This is the tier for characters who you'd generally expect to be able to handle themselves in a fight like criminals or police. Alternate DC universes which are meant to be more grounded and realistic often have the Vigilantes in this tier. On Earth-1 I would scale these people to Shorty Morgan, Slam Bradley's sidekick, regularly depicted as being physically intimidated or weaker than criminals physically. Shorty is depicted cartoonishly leaping over a bullet at close range and is depicted on numerous occasions surviving long falls without injury. I would thus scale this tier to superhuman physicals, potentially subsonic speed.

You could highball everyone from this tier on at low building level based on a fireman in the new 52 handedly surviving this small building explosion which is nice to just have one feat to scale upwards from, but it almost makes it less consistent.


Tier 12: Low Vigilante Tier

This is the tier for characters who are comparable to Batman early on in his career. In the Silver Age, the villain Blockbuster was introduced as able to pulverize a wall, cleaving through a brick wall "as though it was tissue paper." and tank bullets. Silver Age Batman is pushed by this villain, but pushing himself manages to somewhat hurt him with blows that could fell oxen though he attributes it to a certain weak spot. Batman then fights Blockbuster again a few issues later, saying Blockbuster's strikes are like a dozen of his own, and while overwhelmed manages to sting Blockbuster with his own punches and take one of Blockbuster's head on. Early on in Post-Crisis Batman survived multiple explosions which took down a large building and tanked an explosion that destroyed a warehouse. If you're of the persuasion that likes to scale DC street tiers to the MCB to Town range, it's technically said "none of man's weapons" would stop Blockbuster hypothetically including nuclear weaponry but especially for the time period this would be massively inconsistent for Batman and Blockbuster. This is the tier I'd put the metahuman fodder in. Arms-Fall-Off Boy, who was rejected from the JLA was tough enough to withstand an explosion, Normal Amazons are stated to be able to lift 10 tons and the normal Amazon Exoristos easily brought down a several-ton dinosaur with one shot. Atlanteans are able to survive the pressure of the deep ocean. Fodder Parademons are able to bring down planes, destroy helicopters with their fire-breath, and able to tank bullets, though parademons do seem to vary in power. Overall I'd scale people in this tier to Wall level.

Speedwise, people in this verse are generally bullet-timers with some consistency, but with heavy effort. During Amazons Attack, at a few instances the Amazons seem to deflect bullets the way Diana does. Batman after having his back broken early Post-Crisis and being weakened has a mach 2 arm speed feat. Hawkman who was not treated as especially fast then could and did casually fly to distant parts of the Earth for his adventures in implied short time frames and could fly at similar speeds to planes casually. The tier could be vastly faster, with everyone including Batman having speed of lightning and speed of light statements by the Narrator in the Golden Age, but this was common hyperbole for the era and vastly inconsistent for most of these characters. I'd scale these characters as being in the subsonic to supersonic range. 


Tier 11: Mid Vigilante Tier

This is the tier for characters who are comparable to Batman physically after his training with Lady Shiva. Seemingly most of the Batfamily and their Rogues gallery have feats of surviving building collapsing or comparable explosions including Red HoodTim DrakeBatwoman, The SignalBatwingCatwoman, Poison Ivy, Bane, Mister Freeze, Two-FacePenguin, Firefly, and of course, Batman himself many times. Outside them, similar explosions have been survived by Green Arrow, Black Canary, Conner Hawke, KGBeast, and Deadshot. Many of these verge on normal building level or have been calced past it. Pretty much anyone presented as a significant physical threat in the DCU should scale here above the durability of Penguin and Firefly, Penguin being treated as physically much weaker than most Batman villains and Firefly being a relative C-lister. There's some argument that the characters here should be a lot higher due to Batman surviving this explosion though this took place when the League were separated from their secret identities by the Cathexis so I don't know if it would apply, Batman thinking he would likely beat Captain America and Gunfire surviving Deathstroke's staff electricity. Personally I think it's a lot more consistent for this tier to be Low Building level, though if you want to highball them to multi-city block to town level range that's your prerogative.

Speedwise, most characters in this verse scale to various feats of casually bullet-timing and explosion timing from figures like BatmanRed Hood, Tim DrakeDamian WayneCassandra Cain as a child, AzraelBatwing, Huntress, Conner HawkeCatwomanTwo-Face and so on. Pretty much anyone in this tier should scale to supersonic to hypersonic. Cassie Cain is a speedster of this tier, able to avoid lightning. Later on Ravager and Stephanie Brown also showed this ability, though with notably more difficulty. So either you think those two are relatively quick for the tier, or that the other characters in this tier reached this tier. I would consider either fairly reasonable. I'd lowball pretty much everyone in this tier to supersonic, midball to hypersonic early in Post-Crisis and before, and midball them as hypersonic, midball to massively hypersonic later in Post-Crisis.

Fun trivia fact, this is considered to be Olympic Athlete Tier as both Harley Quinn and Batman of this time periods have statements comparing them to Olympic athletes, usually in their favor but not suggesting they are in a different tier. 


Tier 10: High Vigilante/Beta Metahuman Tier

This is the tier for characters with metahuman physical stats but not on the scale of conquering planets as well as the strongest non-empowered humans who can fight them. Batman reaches this after the 1 year timeskip late in Post-Crisis where he goes on a training arc. Batman and Deathstroke both have building level feats, both surprisingly including submarines. Killer Croc after being injected by the Hush-Virus mutated into becoming far stronger and more animalistic easily destroying a cell made to contain his pre-Hush self, scaling him significantly above the prior calcs which were near low building level. Various metahumans have their own feats on this level such as Artemis, whose basically a peak Amazon, destroying a building with one strike, Nightmare Nurse making the House of Mystery shake with her arrival, Pre-Crisis Cyborg throwing a truck outside of a city Pre-Crisis Hawk of Hawk and Dove stopping a moving train, Hawkman and his Earth-3 counterpart Sky Tyrant having several feats in the range of multi-city block level to town level one of which Adam Strange survies, Geo-Force being stated to be able to "light up Manhattan." Black Lightning survives a nuclear explosion, Black Canary's Canary Cry reaching 300 Decibels which would be city level, it being stated all of Pre-Crisis Superman's villains can destroy cities as well as Byrne Era Superman at the start of Post-Crisis withstanding a 40 megaton bomb and moving a mountain that would crush Metropolis and Weather Wizard creating a hurricane. Roughly speaking this tier contains two physical stat levels, building level and town to city level which seems to be DC's "peak human/slightly metahuman level" and "vastly metahuman level"

Speedwise the tier is Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic just from being similar to the prior tier as well as being seen as comparable to the next tier up. Livewire is stated to move as fast as lightning as is Black Lightning, Vixen is able to react to lightningGeo-Force flew into space at MHS speeds, and Byrne Era Superman has numerous MHS speed feats such as outright intercepting lightning and circling the globe. Most of the tier I think is roughly lightning speed.


Tier 9: Low Alpha Metahuman Tier/Fodder Kryptonian Tier

This is the tier for metahumans whose physical stats are significantly on a planetary scale. An early Aquaman was able to move oceanic plates and stop a blow from King Atlan that could sink a continent. Mera, Queen of the Atlanteans was able to hold up an ocean, and protect Atlantis from a global flood. Pre-Crisis Barry Allen counteracted the sinking of Australia. Early in the Post-Crisis Superman's history (Year One), he one-shot a magical creature with the force of a planet and early in the New 52 history Superman lifted the weight of the planet for five days without exertion while cut off from sunlight. Mister Majestic from the Wildstorm Universe has numerous feats of moving planets and Lord Helspont, a major villain from that universe boasts he can destroy planets. a lot of adaptions of Superman in alternate universes tend to be here as they usually have some kind of planetary feat. The characters in this tier are in the country to planetary range.

In terms of speed characters in this tier are in the MHS to FTL range. The lower bound comes partially from scaling to earlier tiers, and partly from feats in this tier like Mera lightning-timing or an early Aquaman quickly swimming to the four corners of the world. An early Superman was able to fly from Pluto to Earth in moments in the New 52 and was able to move in a fraction of a nanosecond in Post-Crisis. The Ray explicitly moves at Lightspeed. In Wildstorm, Apollo and Mister Majestic numerous times fly between the planets. 


Tier 8: Mid Alpha Metahuman/Lower Divine Emanation/Lantern Tier

This tier is the tier for how strong the weaker gods in DC Comics are as well as higher end characters from the New 52 and middle end characters from the Post-Crisis period. These characters vary from star to star system level, mostly being in the large star range. The shields of Green Lanterns, protectors of the universe can withstand black holes and supernova and any threat on a large scale of the DCU will inevitably run into them. A Green Lantern in Pre-Crisis literally immediately after receiving his ring stops an invasion of his planet including sealing an artificial black hole. As a side note, the Green Lanterns were explicitly unaffected by the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Two normal Blue Lanterns were able to restore a Sun's entire history calced at 26.4 supernova worth of energy. Lightray, a relatively non-combative speedster New God was able to use the last of his weakened energy to create a giant new sun, a feat taking over 1 supernova worth of energy. The Teen Titans in Pre-Crisis fought the titan Hyperion who is literally the Sun itself and along with the Titanness Theia rekindled a Star. Similarly in the New 52 Wonder Woman would fight Apollo, literally the Sun itself. Cyborg Superman in the New 52 survived an exploding supernova. New 52 Orion fighting the Galactic Golem shattered a star system. New 52 Superman and briefly New 52 Brainiac withstand a Black Hole, calced at 2.4 Foe. Early Post-Crisis Superman withstood a Sun-Eater implosion. The "Infinite Mass Punch" Speedsters hit with have the force of a white dwarf star. Green Lantern John Stewart created a solar system scale construct. Animal Man can channel the power of an alien animal that withstands black holes. A regular Imperiex Drone created a black hole that destroyed a planet via its weapon. Famously Superman held a black hole which would threaten the Solar System. While weakened by Red Sunlight, Superman was hit by an explosion 50 times Keplar's supernova and survived and he withstood inside the artificial gravity field equivalent to a large black hole. A relatively early Post-Crisis Wonder Woman was able to tank a black hole.

Speedwise, characters in this tier regularly fly around the universe and fight those who do. Most famously Green Lanterns have to regularly patrol whole space sectors, significant sections of the universe and fly back and forth to Oa. Green Lanterns Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner have traveled to the edge of the universe in 10 hours. Various aliens like Imperiex and Brainiac have sent our probes across the universe. Superman in the New 52 traveled back to Earth from the edge of the universe in 60 days. The Supergirls to save Superman flew from the Earth to the Source Wall at the end of the universe, seemingly in a day going by the dialogue. The Pre-Crisis Titans of Myth traversed the universe freely. For characters this tier, traveling the universe usually takes the span of hours or days, which would make them trillions to quadrillions of times the speed of light.


Tier 7: High Alpha Metahuman/Middle Divine Emanation:

This is the tier for characters at the upper of the Post-Crisis power hierarchy as well as most of the Pre-Crisis cosmic characters. Early in Post-Crisis Superman's run both in and out of universe the big thing he was constantly compared against was Pre-Crisis Kryptonians. Out of universe there were plenty of statements about how Superman was depowered from the Pre-Crisis era, that was the point, and in-universe Superman was seen as utterly outmatched against the Pocket Universe Kryptonians and Pre-Crisis Superboy. However Infinite Crisis which in part restored Superman's history as Superboy from Pre-Crisis and his adventures with the Legion of Super-Heroes sees him battling the Earth-2 Superman, and Superboy Prime both Pre-Crisis Kryptonians. Characters in this tier are galaxy level to lower-end multi-galaxy level. Superman absorbed enough anti-sunlight to vaporize half a galaxy. Pre-Crisis Superboy was stated to be able to destroy half a galaxy without breaking a sweat. Sun-Eaters, not that large of a threat in the Pre-Crisis era, were consistently stated to be able to swallow entire galaxies. Pre-Crisis Superman during the early Bronze Age was only slightly hurt by a punch with the magnetic repulsion flow of a hundred galaxies from the New God Magnar.  Ares can grow to the size of the Promethean Giants, whose hands span star systems. The majority of the Green Lantern Corps collectively can contain a galaxy busting explosion, the same corps that Superboy Prime would beat by himself, SBP himself tanking a galaxy-busting bomb, as well as, and I'm not sure how one could quantify this, but shifting the center of the universe. A singular Green Lantern in Pre-Crisis pushing himself to his limit was able to close a black hole that would soon swallow his entire space sector as well as "all that lives". Kal Kent, Superman 1 Million briefly holds back a distant galaxy. Post-Crisis Superman, in a crossover that is considered canon to both series, defeated Thor from Marvel Earth 616 in what he describes as possible hardest fight he'd ever had as of JLA/Avengers in 2003. I don't know Marvel's scaling very well but I have been told Thor at this time would have been Galaxy Level due to being able to destroy the armor of Celestials which can tank galactic explosions. This could be highballed at Universe as Superboy Prime believed he could survive a new Big Bang. Granted Superboy Prime is characteristically reckless and impulsive and didn't say how he thought he would survive given he can shift into other dimensions, but there's numerous other feats people argue make this tier universal. 

In terms of speed, Wonder Woman in 2003 performed the famous "Shattered God" feat of blocking trillions of particles racing across the universe, which is usually calced as being some quintillions of times the speed of light. Later in 2009 at the very tail end of Post-Crisis, Superman, Shazam and Overman stop reality-blitzing missiles which has been calced at upwards of low sextillions of times the speed of light. while Shazam and Superman seem to be fast even for their tier of power, Overman doesn't seem especially fast for his tier of power. This to me shows the general evolution of the strongest characters in DC from traversing the universe in days or hours to seconds as well as the division between general Alpha Tier Metahumans and characters meant to be speedsters among them. This is consistent with numerous casual feats of Pre-Crisis characters traversing the universe in seconds at most in the Silver Age such as Superman traveling to a dead universe to give a super-sneeze, Pre-Crisis Superman punching Sinestro outside the universe, Wonder Woman flying into another dimension rapidly, Pre-Crisis Hal Jordan's probes rapidly scanning the entire universe etc. The speed moves from traveling the universe in hours, to traveling the universe instantly giving calcs ranging from upper end quintillions of times c to lower sextillions c. Roughly this is the tier for characters who can break the time barrier, the way a lot of the speedsters in the Silver Age could. There's an argument that characters here are much higher because numerous characters are faster than Jay Garrick who can run to the edge of the speed force which you can suggest means he's faster than the famous tredecillions of times the speed of light calc Wally West did during the time he was holding back to NOT run into the speedforce. Personally I would definitely not scale that to most of the characters here though, only the fastest. You can also view it as a highball if you like.


Tier 6: High Divine Emanation Tier/Superman Tier:

This is the tier for characters in the same tier as Superman in Pre-Crisis or now in Rebirth as well as the stronger divine emanations. A lot of the characters here are here because they personally have feats in the universal to macrocosmic scale. Later in Pre-Crisis Superman withstood the big bang and destroyed a structure that also did sealed off an evil living universe along with Supergirl with his heat vision, and Supergirl pushing herself to the limit managed to break Anti-Monitor's armor during Crisis on Infinite Earths, Anti-Monitor being the exact equal of the Monitor whose dying energy created a dimension large enough to contain three universes. Late in Pre-Crisis Superman and Supergirl also battled Darkstarr, a reality-warper with control of every aspect of the cosmos. Rebirth has been a bit looser with scaling, and would scale a lot of big name Rebirth characters to this tier.Invincible Man, a Pre-Crisis Shazam villain near the end of Pre-Crisis had the power of the Big Bang. Darkseid's New 52 Emanation and the New 52 Anti-Monitor both have shown universal feats. In rebirth Zeus is shown rival Darkseid using their emanations, with Zeus being the one to defeat the Shattered God, a universal reality-warper and beat Kane Milohai in his own realm, Kane Milohai having created his own heaven and implied to be able to creation billions of them if he wantedBrainiac 13 reformatted the cosmos into his own cybernetic image. In Pre-Crisis Doctor Polaris amped himself with the magnetic power of the universe itself, fighting Green Lantern Hal Jordan. Basically by the end of the Pre-Crisis period, the strongest heroes and villains had reached universal power, a power normally seen by the high-end gods. These level characters show in Post-Crisis and New 52 but are always treated as massively stronger plot device type characters. It's possible this tier is infinitely strong, based on the feat of Green Lantern's ring being used by Time Trapper to destroy all possible futures, somehow being restored by Superman and Ultraman's clash, but that seems to create a lot of inconsistencies.

Characters at this tier are or at least some of them are infinitely fast. They can travel the multiverse stated repeatedly and in all eras to be infinite, in finite time. They are consistently stated to be or to fight threats to existence, an infinitely sized area. Some of them don't have real speed scaling to anyone like Brainiac 13 and are shown to be more akin to Post-Crisis Superman in speed, so this tier can be said to be MFTL to infinite in speed. 


Tier 5: Low God Tier/Orrery of Worlds Tier

This is the tier for characters that can threaten the entire multiverse, the strongest physical and semi-physical forces, as well as most of the entities in the Sphere of the Gods. Beyond their emanations Angels, Demons, Gods, and Personifications are concepts, their true selves dwarfing their emanations in the physical universes. All mortal universes exist in bubbles in New Genesis. The Lords of Order and Chaos were born when duality was born, existing in the birth of the universes. The emotional-electromagnetic entities are representations of the emotional states of the multiverse, one granting Hal Jordan enough power to cause destruction similar to the Crisis on Infinite Earths which destroyed infinite realities. The souls of mortals in the Godsphere generate whole universal afterlives yet can be used as fodder food and currency by demons. 


Tier 4: Godsphere/Fourth World Tier

The strongest characters of the Fourth World are capable of warping significant portions of the Godsphere including whole Godsphere Realms or even the entire sphere itself. The leaders of the various pantheons in Skyland and Underworld can usually control their own pantheon's domain entirely, shaping it to their likely. I would say you could divide characters here into three subtiers; affecting an entire "conceptual" universe the way any pantheon head like Ra or Izanami do in their own domains similar to the demon Shathan who can control the nether-universe of Dis, the capital of Hell. There are characters that can threaten one of the 8 realms of the Godsphere (Skyland, Nightmare, Hell, Apokalips, Underworld, Dream, Heaven, New Genesis) such as the demon Lord Satanus reality-warping all of Hell to his image after defeating its own emperor Neron, the Furies being able to destroy the Dreaming, New Genesis and Apokalips being controlled and maintained by the New Gods, primarily Highfather and Darkseid respectively etc. Finally there's a few characters at the top that can destroy the whole godsphere or manipulate it. Justice League Dark villain Blight planned to fuse the "physical and metaphysical" worlds, the latter likely being the Godsphere. The Lords of Order collectively can destroy the Godsphere and the ancient shadow elemental S'ivaa whose dance would destroy all the worlds up to the Godsphere.

It seems like Tier 5 Gods manifest in their emanations as Tier 8 or lower entities, while Tier 4 Gods manifest in their emanations as Tier 7 entities or higher. There's very little information on them, but I'd guess "average" Fifth World entities would be in this tier.


Tier 3: Monitor Sphere/Fifth World Tier

Beyond the conceptual realm of the Sphere of the Gods is the realm of the metafictional entities like the Monitors and the Imps. This is the tier for characters who can threaten or manipulate the fifth dimension. Cosmic Armor Superman and Mandrakk battling threatened the Monitor Sphere, world of the Monitors, which holds the lower dimensions in a single book in their library The Quantum Mechanics captured Zrfff, the homeworld of the 5D Imps. Mr. Mxyzptlk has destroyed the entire fifth dimension before. This is the tier of the metafictional entities, the fifth dimension consistently being called imagination itself. 


Tier 2: Sixth World Tier

Beyond imagination is the highest plane of reality, the Sixth World, the governing control room of creation which controls the metafictional history of DC Comics. This is the tier of the characters which can threaten or control all of Creation, or another creation outside DC Comics including its conceptual and metafictional aspects. This is the tier of the Super-Celestials like the Hands which are created of the Source to create creations in the void. Perpetua created her three sons; Alphaeus, Mar Novu, and Mobius outside and larger than creation who set the rules for creation and had domain over the three component elements; matter, anti-matter, and dark matter. There are two power subtiers for Tier 2, characters that scale to one of the Brothers Three in their true state, or characters that scale to the Hands as it's confirmed Perpetua is far stronger than her sons. 
 

Tier 1: Omniverse Tier

This is the tier for characters who scale to all the creations in the Overvoid, rather than just a finite number. It's been strongly implied the Endless are this strong as they govern every aspect of the reality created by the Supreme Power, the Presence. The archangels are similarly strong as Lucifer was far stronger than Dream, yet in raw power the Archangel Gabriel could compete with his brother Lucifer. For the most part this is just characters scaling to the Endless as there's few other feats in DC on this level save the implication of how strong the Endless are. There IS also Retconn Corps that apparently have a button that can wipe the face off the Overvoid clean though this is not how strong they are, it just seems to be a weapon they have which is particularly strong.


Tier 0: Overvoid Tier

At the very pinnacle transcending everything is the original unbroken God known of many names, confirmed both in and out of universe numerous times to be the supreme entity. The Divine Spirit, the Oversoul, the Presence, God is the overvoid, the void transcending voids. As the absolute, all other values are 0 in comparison, God is the absolute measurement, the distance is always zero, all the infinite creations, together equate to 0 in the Void. Possibilities, Stories, and Dualities are transcended by this point.




This tiering system was deliberately made to make it so that the characters people actually debate are closer to the middle and taper out as you get closer to the edges. Almost every character people actually tend to debate fall within the middle 9 tier: Tier 12 (Silver Age Robin) to Tier 4 (True Form Darkseid.) And really most of the debated characters are within the middle 5 tiers: Tier 10 (Post-Crisis Batman) to Tier 6 (Pre-Crisis Superman) The lower a tier you go, there's still plenty of characters but they're usually not major characters or characters with powers and so aren't usually debated, while there just aren't that many characters in the top tiers.

If you want to see how well a character from another verse would do, the way I would do it is I would say each tier has 3 subtiers; low, mid, and high. You take the character's stats and find the tier whose power or speed matches, whichever is lower. If the character has  disproportionally power or speed because of this they have "high stats." A character is low in their tier if they don't have strong stats or abilities for their tier. A character is mid in their tier if they have strong stats or strong abilities for their tier. A character is high in their tier if they have both strong stats and strong abilities for their tier. I'm thinking of making up a follow-up example showing how various non-DC characters would tier using this metric. 

If you don't agree with the "levels" I'd scale them too, hopefully you can at least agree with the tiers in general. I try to figure out the internal hierarchy first before figuring out what each tier means in more objective terms and this is roughly how I think the internal tiers look.



A summary of the tiers stats and what they mean:

Tier 15: Microscopic Tier (Below Human Level)

Tier 14: Normal Civilian Tier (Human Level, possibly low superhuman stats)

Tier 13: Police/Criminals Tier, Mundane Fodder Tier (Subsonic Wall Level, possibly Small Building Level)

Tier 12: Supernatural Fodder Tier, Villains that aren't meant to be physical threats and Non-Powered Vigilantes in the Gold and Silver Ages (Subsonic to Supersonic Wall Level+, possibly Small Building Level)

Tier 11: Most Heroes and Villains that are meant to be Human Level physically (Supersonic to Hypersonic, possibly Massively Hypersonic Small Building Level)

Tier 10: The Strongest "Humans" and Beta Metahumans Tier (Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic Building to City Level)

Tier 9: Low Alpha Tier. General Kryptonian Tier, Atlantean Royalty Tier, the Strongest Superheroes of most Universes (Massively Hypersonic to FTL Country to Planet Level)

Tier 8: Mid Alpha Tier. Early Superman Tier. Lantern Tier. Teen Titans Heavy Hitters Tier. Lower End Gods' Emanations Tier. End of New 52 Tier Characters. (MFTL (Billions) to MFTL (Quadrillions) Star Level to  Star System Level.)

Tier 7: High Alpha Tier. End of Post-Crisis and General Pre-Crisis Tier Characters. Mid-End Divine Emanation Tier. Upper End limit of Most Lanterns. (MFTL (Quintillions) to MFTL (Sextillions) Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy Level.)

Tier 6: End of Pre-Crisis/Rebirth Tier JLA Heavy Hitters Tier. General Tier for Crisis Level Enemies during the Post-Crisis and New 52 periods. High End Divine Emanations. (MFTL to Infinite Speed Universe to Macrocosmic Level)

Tier 5: Levels of strongest entities in the mortal universes and lesser entities in the Godsphere such as the true forms of demons, angels, concepts, and gods. Tier of most of the Lords of Order/Chaos. Emotional Spectrum Entities Level. Major Crisis Tier. (Infinite Physical Power or Conceptual Power)

Tier 4: Tier for the Lords of various Pantheons or even stronger, the Lords of the Godsphere Realms. Tier for the Major Conceptual Threats. Probable tier of lesser metafictional powers. (Conceptual Universal to Multiversal Power or Metafictional Power)

Tier 3: Tier for the Entities with significant power in the Metafictional Fifth World. (Metafictional Planetary+ power)

Tier 2: Tier for the Brothers Three and beings who scale to them, or even stronger the Hands and those who scale them. (Metaconceptual Power)

Tier 1: Tier for things that scale to the infinite creations in the Overvoid, mostly the Endless and those who scale above it like the Archanagels. (Infinite Metaconceptual Power)

Tier 0: Tier for the Presence and its shadow the Great Evil Beast (Absolute Power, transcending the concepts of "power" "existence" and "infinity.")

1 comment:

  1. Great blog. Your reasoning for lowballing, midballing, and highballing seems fair. Interesting to see where feats like the infamous super sneeze would lie, how the Marvel crossover ties into things, as well as where weird characters like Slam Bradley would be at. There is quite a jump between some tiers like tier 9 and 8. One thing I randomly noticed is that Gabriel is mentioned in this blog, but never mentioned in your Lucifer blog outside of the comic panels. This is a good reference blog to keep in mind in the future.

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