Sailor Moon vs Supergirl Analysis

So from what I can tell the two most commonly requested Death Battles for my favorite character Sailor Moon are Sakura Kinomoto from Cardcaptor Sakura, which is the battle I'd most like to see, and Supergirl from DC Comics. While I don't like this fight nearly as much, Sailor Moon and DC are probably my top 2 favorite series, and I do know both well enough to comment on this fight, so these are my dedicated thoughts on that fight.

I'd like to start by saying when I versus debate, there's two things that are perhaps a bit particular to my style of versus debating, or three things that are relevant to this one.

1: I don't tend to like using multipliers until they are REALLY clear cut. In general I don't tend to very hard and fast thoughts on whose stronger or faster assuming the two are in something of the same range. A lot of times things like calcs, feats and multipliers are ambigious and what you're really trying to get is the general range within an order of magnitude but if one character scales to 110 Megatons and the other to 85 Megatons I'm not going to say the former is definitively stronger most of the time since most of the time that's using calcs where that is within margin of error. The other scenario is the multiplier is simply a massive lowball. One of the Sailor Moon multipliers is the transformation from civilian form to base, a multiplier that could literally be cosmically stronger. As such this is going to be giving a few general ranges of interpretations for the stats of both characters.

2: I view characters as...I guess more vulnerable would be a good way to put it. I don't get this thing people have done where they say "character is on a higher tier that means they are immune to any ability not on that tier". To me being like way stronger/more durable just means you can tank their attacks, and even that doesn't mean you will always be able too as for some character their durability is more variable. I don't think mind haxing a universal entity, or any entity that is arbitrarily strong is any more impressive then mind haxing a normal human, with mind hax being scaled for instance by number of people effected, the degree to which they were effected, and their resistance to mind hax, if any. 

3: I try to read things directly. I think you can interpret meaning into things infinitely but you are ultimately adding things then rather then simply reading what's on the page. When I see the word "world" I presume it means "world." When I see the word "universe" I presume it means "universe" and don't like that people currently read into these that they mean the entire setting. While I recognize these words can have a different meaning and so shouldn't be used as a limit, I also think that one shouldn't default to thinking these mean more then they say. I firmly believe if you find yourself trying to explain away information in the series, then you should be careful that you aren't just trying to force out the interpretation you are getting.

So with that said, who'd win between Sailor Moon and Supergirl. This is going to be assuming Manga Usagi Tsukino vs Comic Kara Zor-El. Sailor Moon has more feats and powers from non-canon material that makes her stronger, although Linda Danvers Supergirl was apparently 1/3rd of the female half of the Presence and clearly no incarnation of Usagi is fighting that.

In terms of raw power, both these characters I would say are universal in power although for both it's a bit more complicated then that.

Starting with Usagi, Sailor Moon is well accepted to be universal by this point with the only real debate being at what point Sailor Moon attained universal status. There are apparently some who still don't agree with Usagi being universal but at this point such a belief is so rare that I don't feel it neccesary to massively consider that interpretation. 

The point most seem to think Sailor Moon reaches is during the Dream Arc where Sailor Moon defeats Queen Nehelenia who was maintaining a universe and uses the full power of the Silver Crystal, a power that is stated to be able to create a universe, be the source of all energy, warp the spacetime continuum and so on. Some people are skeptical of the Nehelenia feat and that's fairly understandable, however that really doesn't do much but move the universal boundary one step higher to Usagi attaining Eternal Sailor Moon in the Dream Arc as she scales to the full power of the Silver Crystal.

Even if you don't like that interpretation, basically by saying that it doens't make sense for Usagi to grow stronger in the Stars Arc if she was using the SC's full power in the Dream Arc, which for me doesn't at all seem a contradiction, it just means the Silver Crystal's power was growing as was indicated back since the first arc, it's pretty much entirely agreed upon then that the full power of Usagi by the fifth arc would have to be universal since the plot revolves around Galaxia tormenting Usagi to force her to use the full power of the Silver Crystal and she then gains the Lambda Power, which the Silver Crystal is only a part of and so on. Basically Sailor Moon had universal power since Arc 4 or 5.

If I had to say when Sailor Moon unlocked universal power it would probably be her Dream Arc Super Form. This was the point she was able to compete relatively well with Nehelenia, being relative to Helios who kept Nehelenia at bay for a while. You could interpret it as low as her civilian form Dream Arc since she survived lightning that hurt Helios and she and Mamoru bended off Nehelenia a bit by shining their Sailor Crystals at her. Personally I would view this more as a general feat of the Silver Crystal rather then a feat of Usagi's baseline power, as Super Sailor Senshi in general seem to be somewhat relative to Nehelenia as Super Sailor Jupiter hurt her severely with a punch and I don't think Usagi's civilian form is as strong as the other Senshi's super form. You could interpret it as high as Eternal Sailor Moon Dream Arc since she one-shot Nehelenia.

After that she gets some unknown but large amount stronger because you have her go from civilian form to eternal and then she fights people that make that look like her civilian form which could be viewed as either a 2x multiplier or a squaring...I don't like to use multipliers but she's some large amount stronger then she was basically.

As for being more then universal there's only really 2 arguments I can tell for that and neither are that convincing. One of them is that she restored the cosmos/various other feats that effect all of spacetime that people assume to mean the entire setting which has multiple universes. While it's true the verse has other universes, as mentioned above I don't really agree with interpreting a word to mean more then it is. This is the argument I had about PMMM a while back where they were taking words like "world" or "universe" and assuming it meant the entire setting. The other way is via dimensional tiering which is not something I use.

Supergirl's power for comparison. Supergirl is another character I would say is "universal" but there's more to it then just that. Supergirl scales to various dc universal feats but a dc universe can be much bigger, with it being stated the universe extends at least 100 trillion light years, a size thousands of times across. I say can be because I'm not sure if one should scale universe size between continuities like that and as such don't know if the Pre-Crisis Universe scales that large although let's assume it's the same. Supergirl was able to fight Blackstarr who controls the universe in every aspect, scales to Superman who survived the Big Bang, things of that nature. That said her best feat from COIE is probably her limit where she pushed herself to the max from rage and managed to threaten Anti-Monitor. This wasn't peak Anti-Monitor but he was at least stronger then a dying Monitor who converted his energy into a dimension large enough to contain 5 universes.

As such Supergirl scales to I presume 5 times thousands of times baseline universal if you wanna use multipliers. Given the Super Sailor Senshi multiplier is " more then 10,000 times" just Base Sailor Moon, I would think Usagi would have the power advantage. For the most part I'm gonna be acting like these two are in roughly the same range, though I'll go over as well a scenario in which Usagi is just outright clearly more powerful.

There's also the possibility you hear of Supergirl being way stronger. Some people claim the Anti-Monitor was infinite multiversal the entire time, which seems inconsistent to me. The other thing people bring up is the DC Big Bang created the multiverse meaning Superman's feat should be multiversal. Problem is area of effect, Superman can only exist in one universe at once so he's clearly taking an infinitesmally small amount of the infinite energy of the Big Bang. I'll go over the possibility Supergirl is infinitely stronger as well.

Going over speed, I don't even really need to go over Sailor Moon's speed because in terms of quantifiable speed feats Supergirl is just obviously faster. Sailor Moon might be no slouch when it comes to speed and there's stuff you can argue as quadrillions or even just over 1 quintillion times the speed of light in Sailor Moon, things like the light of the Silver Crystal reaching the end of spacetime instantly.  That said DC Comics has absolutely insane speed feats that Sailor Moon is just obviously not going to be able to match, things like going to the end of the multiverse in minutes. 

That said it kind of doesn't matter with these two. Both characters have the ability to time travel and the ability to resist paradoxes, meaning their future selves can protect their past selves. This is something Sailor Moon herself showed with Chibi-Chibi, Usagi's future self protecting her from Galaxia several times. This means a speedblitz wouldn't work because the character can go back in time and protect their past self when they would have been blitzed. VS battles wiki calls this "immeasurable" speed and while I don't agree it's speed, I do agree with the basic tenant that it sort of acts to invalidate higher quanitfiable speed.

Overall I think Sailor Moon probably wins for 3 main reasons which I talked about in a prior blog about Superman vs Sailor Moon. The first of the reasons is I think Sailor Moon is probably more powerful. Again I don't really like using multipliers but this one seems fairly clear to me. However even if you say Supergirl is stronger I don't think it really changes anything.

The good news for Supergirl is that she is basically immune to almost any hax ability that Sailor Moon can use. The Kryptonians were able to resist the reality-warping of Blackstarr who controlled the universe in every aspect. Presuambly this means you would need universal scale hax to effect them and even if you don't think so, Supergirl has a lot of hax resistances independent to this to almost all of Usagi's abilities. Of Usagi's abilities the only hax ones that are even relevant to talk about on a universal scale are seeming his space and time manipulation. The Silver Crystal has distorted spacetime on a universal scale before and via the Pluto Crystal she can hypothetically freeze time for the universe. This might work on Supergirl although even then it's universal hax vs universal hax resistance so it's questionable imo because the two are in the same range. I know people say that Kryptonians are "weak" to magic although as people constantly bring up they aren't actually weak to magic they just have no special resistance to it. If you interpret that as meaning that Usagi's magic based abilities would work on Supergirl regardless of her resistances then yes obviously this means that Usagi's haxes would work fine on her. That said Superman has sent Lord Satanis' magic back just by spinning so it seems to me like they deal with magic basically as well as they deal with anything.

However the bad news for her and the good news for Sailor Moon is while Supergirl can resist most of Sailor Moon's haxes, Sailor Moon's hax defenses are not at all something Supergirl is equipped to get past and that's the second reason I think Sailor Moon probably wins, that being her regen. I've seen a lot of people try to overcomplicate Sailor Moon's regen, but again I just try and read what's on the page. Sailor Cosmos states that the Lambda Power is what restores Sailor Moon, the Lambda Power being the energy of the Cosmos Crystal, Star Seed of the universe. As such Sailor Moon essentially regens so long as the universe's energy exist and to kill her one would need to reduce the universe to a void.

Now Supergirl very likely would be able to figure this out due to the supergenius intellect of a Kryptonian plus her enhanced senses basically showing her the energy reforming Sailor Moon. However she absolutely wouldn't be able to get around it. First off in-character Supergirl is not going to destroy the universe, killing untold trillions of lives to win a fight. But even if you say that this takes place in a totally abandoned universe or that Supergirl is just completely bloodlusted while Supergirl has the raw power to do this she is limited by the third advantage Sailor Moon has which is range. Sailor Moon's Lambda Power and her Silver Crystal's light can effect the universe at once. While Kryptonians can fight on that level of power even in Pre-Crisis they didn't show range to that extent as far as I'm aware mostly sticking to a star system scale range.

Even ignoring all that there's a third reason Supergirl wouldn't be able to just destory the universe, that being the fact that she relies on Yellow Stars for her energy. If she just tried just destroying the universe, she's going to destroy all the yellow suns before she destroys the entire thing.

Conversely Sailor Moon both has the character and the ability to get around Supergirl's defenses. Even if you say Supergirl is stronger, even if you say she is infinite multiversal and therefore infinitely stronger Usagi does have hypothetical ways of winning. Most notably is that Sailor Moon can hypothetically BFR Supergirl to an area with a Red Sun to deprive her of her powers via teleporting her or sending her through time. A good tactic for Usagi to use would be to BFR Supergirl to the end of the universe where the yellow stars have faded out, something that in DC in particular is a power well beyond a Kryptonian called the Time Trapper. 

I definitely think Usagi would have both the ability to figure this out and the character to use it. Usagi not only has access to the Supergenius of the Mercury Crystal with the Lambda Power, and intellience equal to an IQ of over 300, but also has the ability to give information to her past self via the Golden Crystal's psychometry. In-character Usagi doesn't like fighting, and would have no qualms whatsoever of BFR-ing her opponent to a place her opponent is powerless so the fighting will end. There's a more obscure ability Usagi has that would work. When in the Galaxy Cauldron Guardian Cosmos asks Usagi if she wants to start a new history of the stars, basically just do the universe over again. While it would be out of character for Usagi to do this, if Usagi did just basically restart the universe, while Supergirl would be able to survive that, the early universe didn't have stars let alone yellow stars.

The best sort of DC comparison I can make is that Supergirl vs Usagi is sort of like a hypothetical match between Supergirl and Zatanan during Seven Soldiers: Zatanna where she and Zor fought a reality-warping battle controlling the universe from outside time and space. Supergirl is faster but Zatanna was outside conventional spacetime. Supergirl might be fighting on the same level of power but her opponent is basically the universe itself and is so much more versatile that Zatanna just would have many more ways of actually ending the fight at any time even if she can't directly effect Supergirl because of her resistances (which might not even apply due to magic). Bear in mind that Supergirl and Zatanna were portrayed as pretty equal back in Pre-Crisis (Supergirl (1972) Issue 7) when Zatanna wasn't anywhere near as strong as she was during Seven Soldiers. As someone who really REALLY loves both franchises, that's about where I think Sailor Moon would be in DC, she's around as strong as Zatanna was in the fight against Zor. 

If this fight actually does come up, this is about what I'd expect.