Friday, February 5, 2021

How they compare: Vex (LittleBigPlanet)

 


Surrounding the Earth is a universe made of pure imagination containing within is the world of Craftworld, home of the gentlest creatures of Craftworld, the Sackpeople and their knitted knights, protectors of the whole imagisphere. However not all things in imagination are so pleasent. Residing near the center of craftworld born of chaos and fear is the entity Vex, lord of nightmares and master of the uproar.

Vex found all the cute little pleasentries of craftworld boring and proceeded to bring what he viewed as excitement and the life of the party, that being of course chaos and havoc, with his ultimate plan being to create and power a device known as the Topsy Turver and replace the Tree of Imagination giving Craftworld it's life and creativity with it, to turn Craftworld from a world of dreams to a world of nightmares where he would have full control.


In terms of raw power, Vex was dwindling each star of their power one by one to power his Topsy Turver. A star's power in it's lifetime is actually larger then the energy of a supernova, suggesting that Vex should be at a similar level of power. This is consistent with how he's clearly massively stronger then Sackboy to the point that even his breath can throw Sackboy away and can one-shot him with attacks, despite Sackboy being able to damage Negativitron, able to do signifigant damage to starships that tanked force that knocked stars away.

In terms of speed, Vex was easily able to go between the star systems to drain the stars of their energy at MFTL speeds. Even more impressively he should be similar in speed to the Negativitron who was a threat to the Craftcosm in a short time, and himself was able to go to the Tree of Imagination, said to be the center of craftworld, here seeming to mean the entire universe, in a short timespan. To quickly travel universal distances requires a speed at least billions to trillions of times the speed of light.


In terms of abilities, Vex as lord of the uproar, nightmare energy of chaos, has a pretty fair arsenal. Like all denizens of the Imagisphere, Vex is made of pure imagination and creative energy, existing on an "abstract plane" though he seems to be made of fears and the darkness we imagine as opposed to the Sackfolk, and claims he will return so long as nightmares exist.

Vex can fly and freely adjust his form, turning into a more aquatic form underwater, turning his arm into a vacuum cleaner to suck up the Sackfolk, or changing into two giant golden eyes in the darkness when he had the Topsy Turver on. He can seemingly tear holes open in space at will. His breath is also a strong enough weapon that he can blow Sackboy away. He seems to be able to teleport wherever his uproar is as well, such that when his uproar covered a whole level, he said to Sackboy that he was everywhere.

Vex is most known for his ability to use the energy of the uproar. The uproar is the corrupting energy of fear and is opposite the pure dreamer orbs representing the energy of dreams. Uproar can be used by Vex to create physical attacks like bombs and spikes or to create green floating hands to smash enemies. It can be used to telekinetically move objects such as reversing conveyor belts or make certain areas inaccesible to those without enough dreamer energy. Uproar can influence the psyches of beings, bending them to Vex's will or corrupting them into evil versions of themselves. He can also empower those he's controlling with his signature green lightning.

The uproar's most potent ability is to steal things from the world away, making the world barren and uncreative. Vex stole such things as the tides from the oceans and the lights of the stars to power his Topsy Turver. Vex was even able to use the uproar to steal the power of the dreamer orbs from Sackboy, a power he normally couldn't touch because of his lack of purity, due to stealing it from a pure heart.

With the power of his Topsy Turver, Vex's uproar can flood the world and become vastly more potent. He already had minor reality-warping abilities, but with this he can warp whole levels and their surroundings, corrupting and warping even Craftworld into a barren hellscape. He also gained darkness manipulation, able to flood the entire imagisphere, a conceptual universe with darkness. 

Outside of his abilities Vex is also a master manipulator, having manipulated the events of almost the entirety of the game he appears in to steal the dreamer energy from Sackboy.

In terms of weaknesses, Vex has almost the mirror weakness of Sackboy. Sackboy doesn't always do the most efficient thing to kill an enemy, preferring to be creative and make friends then destroying an enemy. Vex also doesn't tend to do the most efficient strategy in combat, preferring to be creative and make mayhem and mischief, throwing them into chaotic scenarios like putting them in a room with a game show wheel with different horrible fates on it and a slim change of freedom (although he doens't mind cheating). He also can't control normally the pure energy of dreamers. 


Name: Vex, God of Nightmares, Master of the Uproar, Lord of Chaos and Nightmares, that Dastardly Vex, that Rotten Vex
Origin: Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Classification: Conceptual entity born of fear and chaos
Powers and Abilities: Conceptual Existence, Shapeshifting, Flight and Pseudo-Teleportation, Summoning (Bombs, Spike Traps), Telekinesis, Psychic Hand Generation, Mental Manipulation, Corruption, Conceptual Energy Stealing, Reality-Warping (Mild normally, possibly planetary with Topsy Turver), Spatial Manipulation, Wind Manipulation, Green Lightning Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation (Universal with Topsy Turver)
Weaknesses: Not a particularly focused fighter, preferring to spread chaos, mischief and fear then kill. Can't naturally control the pure energy of dreamers due to not being pure of heart.
Destructive Capacity: Large Star level
Range: Stellar normally, Universal overtime
Speed: Likely MFTL+ (Billions to Trillions)
Durability: Large Star level
Stamina: Presumably Infinite (Has no physical form to tire, is living creative energy)
Standard Equipment: The Topsy Turver, although it requires massive amounts of creative energy to power
Intelligence: Skilled manipulation, possibly superhuman scientific intellect (built the Topsy Turver, although information about this is limited)

So how would he do in other verses?


In Marvel Comics, Vex would be considered physically a herald level entity due to scaling to even very new inexperienced Heralds being able to create destroy and manipulate stars and can easily travel around the universe. That said against most people in his own power class he would be very hard to fight against his conceptual nature. The corrupting power of the uproar could also be a major threat.

That said he would have signifigant trouble due to the sheer amount of psychics in the verse. The verse has numerous planetary tier psychics who can simply manipulate the positive energy of the world's dreamers to trap Vex, and assuming they knew about him this would actually likely not be too much of a problem. The big trick is whether they could find out about him and his nature before his uproar caused too much chaos via corruption.

The one character I think would be a really big help would be Loki. Loki as the god of Chaos would likely have an intuitive knowledge of Vex, as Marvel Asgardians have shown awareness of things happening within their domain. Not only could Loki likely very easily trick Vex as he has a lifetime of experience tricking far more clever manipulators, but he is an also an accomplished psychic of his own and one who could convince Vex that there working for the same cause while secretly he feeds informatin to someone like Xavier.


In DC Comics, Vex would be very difficult and almost impossible to stop for most of the Earth. Vex's normal power isn't too immense, it would be comparable to things like the relatively low tier in power new god Lightray creating large stars or low to mid tier green lanterns surviving within black holes. The problem is due to what he is, he would have an immense and immediate connection to the collective unconcious, a power source which would basically give him the power of the uproar times 1,000.

Anyone who isn't Kryptonian level resistance to hax would immediatly find themselves under the sway of what could be described as a new chaos god. That said he would stopped probably fairly quickly, albeit with likely a lot of damage by Doctor Fate whose role is to stop much more powerful and experienced archetypal chaos forces (the lords of chaos) all the time. That said in DC he hits FAR above his weight class



In the scribblenauts-verse, Vex would be a supervillain level threat physically, scaling off characters that can fight and beat Solaris the Tyrant Sun and can withstand Maxwell's black hole and stellar summons. He would also be about right speedwise, being similar in speed to Lanterns who can quickly fly to Oa at the center of the universe, if not a big on the slower side.

That said Vex's powers would be extremely potent and unless Maxwell or someone with similar power there, would be basically unstoppable as his corruption abilitiy, while pretty beatable by Maxwell via removing attributes would be hard to stop, not to mention his manipulation and conceptual powers.

Vex could even hit outside his weight to try and fight some of the big threats of the verse or the verse's strongest hero Maxwell however he would have to rely pretty much entirely on indirect fighting as Anti-Monitor and Maxwell can delete or recreate the multiverse on a metafictional level.


In the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends-verse, Vex would be massively stronger then almost anyone in the verse save for the god tier World who can create a dimension containing it's own sun. That said the distance from an Earthlike planet to Sun is also about in the supernova range meaning that World and Vex would be likely similar in terms of raw power.

Vex is much faster and he could possibly manipulate the childish World, however World is a living face that can possess anything and Vex as a symbol of the lack of spirit in his creation never creates any new lifeforms with his reality-warping, only corrupting what exists, meaning World could possess any of his creations. While Vex is conceptual meaning World would have a massive difficulty hurting him, there are actual ways the verse can deal with Vex. The verse has powerful spatial manipulation via World and Uncle Pockets and even lesser time manipulation, things Vex has never shown the ability to fight, and which is considered god tier abilities in LBP that only Content Curators possess. It's possible they could trap Vex and even if he can get out long enough they have another possible ability: the power of imagination.

In the Fosters-universe, imagination allows them to physically incarnate things from the archetypal imagination into being. Vex is a being made of pure imagination. It's perfectly possible that especially with the power of really potent creative thinkers like Goo, that Vex could be forced into physical existence at which point he could be defeated by more conventional means like existence erasure or molecular re-arranging. While Vex would be a massive threat, if the verse was focused and fought with teamwork, distracting or confusing him with large armies of strange imaginary beings that they could stop Vex.


In the Animaniacs-verse, Vex would be physically on par with most strong toons. The Warner Siblings have contended with the likes of the Tasmanian Devil who scales to Yosemite Sam and Marvin the Martian whose fight created new constellations as well as to Bugs Bunny who scale to rockets that leave the galaxy in seconds, putting their stats as fairly comparable.

Vex in general would be able to beat most of the same people that the Warners could beat. He's got a fairly versatile arsenal of conceptual abilities, his own manpulative mind, and is his own force of chaos like them, albeit a far more twisted chaos of nightmares. However while Vex would be able to cause chaos similar to the Warners, they would acutally do really well to counter him. 

I mentioned previously Vex can be countered by strong enough spatial hax, but the Warners have universal scale space manipulation, able to hold the whole universe inside a little jar meaning a full Topsy Turver Vex could essentially get spatially locked in infinitely repeating rooms or find his attacks thrown back at him. Sackboy beat Vex by throwing Vex's own bombs back at him and using his own attacks to hit him. The Warners can do that without even effort given their force/causality reversal. They also even more skilled then Vex being able to do things like attaining enlightenment and defeated groups of ninjas in single moves.  Vex is a force of nightmares and chaos however the Warners are a force of positive chaos and can utilize the pure power of imagination, able to out-chaos and out-creative Vex. They have a long and more varied history of manipulation then Vex and even though Vex is a conceptual entity, the Warners have effected the plot directly before meaning there's no reason they couldn't just effect him directly. As cartoons they are directly powered by the joy and laughter of people, pure creative energy, the antithesis and kryptonite of Vex. 

4 comments:

  1. This was a REAL Treat imp chan, I said a lot i loved how Little Big Planet sounded as a series in your last blog, it just seems super wholesome but also interesting in how it blends a lot of things i like in fiction like imagination and creativity into the lore itself. It is easily the most cartoony series that isnt actually a cartoon i know of. and this Villain is exactly what i would expect from the verse and more! Vex is really smart, powerful and has a slew of really useful and haxy powers, and on top of that is a conceptual entity! Scary but also SO Cool!

    IT was cool seeing how this guy would be so much more OP in DC than he would in Marvel due to abusing the verses collective unconscious. and Scribblenauts is a verse i know for being super op, i remember when people were debating Maxwell vs Sakura Kinomoto!

    But HOLY CRAP I was so happy to see Freaking Fosters and Freaking Animaniacs! i can still hardly believe it! and you did such a great job analyzing both of them! It was a real treat to read those! Seems like it would be very hard to stop him in Fosters, But in Animaniacs, he may be one of the toughest villains, but hes Not gonna stop those true heroic Toons!

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  2. Awesome Imp! Vex was a great idea for a How they compare blog, especially with his conceptual nature. The Marvel/DC comparison was pretty interesting as usual, especially with how differently both verses would respond to Vex despite both being OP superhero franchises. DC's overpoweredness actually worked against it this time, turning Vex into a monstrous chaos god. The fact Marvel's psychics would reign him in, in comparison makes sense but its still kinda surprising. I like how you mentioned Loki and his role in likely manipulating Vex as well since that seems like something his kind of character would do.

    The Foster's comparison was pretty neat, especially with both series focusing on imagination. I like the detailed comparison to World, as that is the most immediate character I would think of that would pose a threat to him. Though the possibility of Foster's characters defeating him by bringing him into physical reality would be such a mind-blowing moment if it happened in the show (especially since they aren't particularly known for combat in the show), and yet it would make a lot of sense.

    I liked the comparison between Vex and the Warners as a battle between negative chaos vs positive chaos. I sometimes forget that Animaniacs characters have interacted with Looney Tunes characters, and therefore should have some insane toonforce abilities themselves. Scribblenauts is a verse I've heard compared with LittleBigPlanet so it was nice to see that verse here as well (though again, I really didn't expect that verse to get so powerful)

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  3. Hello, do you have discord? This is a but sudden, but I would like to discuss Yuuko Ichihara’s feats, as I saw your blog a little over 3 years ago, and it really interested me.

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    1. I don't really like using Discord but I can chat there if you really want.

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